Well you simply should accept the fact. There is no evidence sto suggest it is anything other than i described. For you or anyone to believe any contradictory report is nothing but a sign of prejudice against Iran.

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"

All Ahmadinejad has ever done is to call for regime change in Jerusalem. I don't think you need me to post quotes to know Bush has made similar calls with regards to Cuba.

That is exactly why so many fail to even understand the basics about Iran. Being President of Iran is very different from being President in the US or France for instance. The President of Iran has very limited power. He cannot declare war, he cant determine government policy, that is the role of the supreme leader.

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"

I would argue that it is dishonorable to target the citizenry of a nation whose government is one's enemy. A couple of points are in order here:

(1) There is a vast difference between the deeply regrettable, yet unavoidable collateral damage--a term that is a bit more antiseptic than I would prefer; but I cannot think of a better substitute--that is inevitable in wartime, and the intentional targeting of civilians. The moral distinction should be so obvious as to require no elucidation.

(2) The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 is a tough case. The Japanese citizenry--including even women and children--certainly had done nothing to deserve such a horrendous fate. But the sudden use of Fat Man and Little Boy to bring the war in the Pacific to a quick halt may actually have saved more civilian lives than it cost. This is because of the likelihood of Japan's engaging in house-to-house combat for a very long time, notwithstanding the attempts of revisionist historians to claim that this would never have happened. In the end, therefore, I am highly ambivalent about this one.

I don't see anything dishonorable about either. Which are you suggesting is likely to be Iran's course of action?

No, that is not inherently unethical; especially if (a) the other country has widely advertised its intention to destroy another nation in the neighborhood, whose right to exist it refuses to recognize (presumably with the nukes that it currently has under development; and with which it would intimidate and blackmail other Western nations); and (b) it is in the process of murdering the other country's soldiers--not killing them in combat, but murdering them with roadside bombs.

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BBC..June 15
"EU policy chief Javier Solana has said the new package of incentives offered by world powers to Iran to halt nuclear enrichment is "full of opportunities".

Mr Solana, who made the offer in Tehran, said the six powers were ready to help develop Iran's nuclear energy programme for peaceful purposes.

The deal also involves trade benefits but Iran has warned it will reject any demands to halt uranium enrichment. "

I can look for the china quote again, but just google "offers to Iran" and you will find lots of articles. The quote was from last Saturday.

2. Ask Egypt, Britain, France, Italy, Russia, China, US, Isreal, the Arab Gulf States...no one wants a nuclear armed Iran.

The major reason Iran should not be allowed nuclear weapons:
It is not an allie of the West, nor the European Union.
Thats enough reason. Is it fair...no. Is it right...no.
I dont know about you, but in the US, I would feel less safer if a non-democratic, non-allie Muslim country had nuclear weapons. Call me unfair.

Actually he talks about the killing of the Jews and the destruction of their entire nation. What you are missing is that in direct translation to english, he says "regime" but in context, "regime" means "nation." When you read directly translated speeches, they don't make sense with the word "regime," like when he says, "an illegitimate regime, there is no legal basis for its existence," that means the jewish nation of Israel, not just their government. So when it is put in context, yes, he does advocate the destruction of that nation, quite often.

You're assuming that there is no corruption in their government and that he is not pulling any strings.

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He doesn't talk about killing jews. Iran is actually home to many jews and is probably one of the best places to be a jew in the Middle East.

Regime means regime. If he wants the eradication of the artificial zionist entity, then i applaud the man. But that has nothing to do with killing jews, it can actually have a lot more to do with justice and democracy. I support as Arafat called for, a democracy of all the land of Palestine where Muslims, Christians and Jews have equal rights. That is the noble position. Anything less is undemocratic and imperialistic.

I am assuming that Khamenei is in charge. Which is the only sensible assumption to make. He was in charge before Ahmadinejad was made President and God willing he will remain so afterwards. As President Ahmadinejad may have influence but he cannot enforce any policy against Khamenei's will.

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"

Can you please show us some of those comments that you claim Bush made that are similiar to what Ahmadinejad said?

Just thought I would point out that there are not many Jews in Iran. Less than 2% of the population are Jews.

"The remaining 2% are non-Muslim religious minorities, including Bahá'ís, Mandeans, Hindus, Yezidis, Yarsanis, Zoroastrians, Jews, and Christians."

Iran Demorgrahy

I normally don't use wikipedia as a source, but in this case the numbers are correct.

Verification of source CIA - The World Factbook -- Iran

If it harbors weapons, it is.

And there's no justification in civilians being 'fair game' in war...not any one that will be happening anytime soon.

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As long as the fire burns we shall never be free..." (The Shadows of Yavara, Final Reclamation)

Non military targets does not equate civillians.

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"

2% of 65 million is what 1.3 million people. That is more people than the entire country of Cyprus.

And are you seriously asking for quotes where Bush calls for regime change in Cuba?

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"