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Old 07-08-2008, 03:44 PM
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Default dont know where you heard, but yesterdays news:

"China and six other world powers offered to help Iran develop a non-military nuclear program if Iran agreed to halt its uranium enrichment program. Saturday Iran said no to the offer."

Russia's offer had already been turned down awhile ago. Iran has also not let in any inspectors.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States do not want a nuclear Iraq.

By the way, if Israel initiates a strike against Iran, Iran is not justified in attacking US interests. I would think Israel could handle Iran on its own, unless Iran blocks the Straits. But then we are into a world situation.

Irans best option, is to accept the worlds offer for peaceful nuclear power.
It faces a catastophe if it doesn't...
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:04 PM
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"China and six other world powers offered to help Iran develop a non-military nuclear program if Iran agreed to halt its uranium enrichment program. Saturday Iran said no to the offer."

Russia's offer had already been turned down awhile ago. Iran has also not let in any inspectors.

Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the Gulf States do not want a nuclear Iraq.

By the way, if Israel initiates a strike against Iran, Iran is not justified in attacking US interests. I would think Israel could handle Iran on its own, unless Iran blocks the Straits. But then we are into a world situation.

Irans best option, is to accept the worlds offer for peaceful nuclear power.
It faces a catastophe if it doesn't...
1) Source please
2) What gives one country the right to nuclear missiles but not other countries? In other words why should the various nuclear countries be allowed them but not Iran?
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Maybe when one country wants to completely destroy another. Just a thought. Kind of like when one person keeps saying that they want kill their neighbor, they shouldn't be sold a gun.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:16 PM
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Maybe when one country wants to completely destroy another. Just a thought. Kind of like when one person keeps saying that they want kill their neighbor, they shouldn't be sold a gun.
Question: Would Bush like to completely destroy Cuba?

Answer: Yes.

But anyway, that "map" quote was taken out of context and it has been argued here many times about the actual words used and meaning of it, plus how stupid do you think Ahmadinejihad is? If he were to attack Israel US and British nukes, among others, would be pointing at Iran before you can say Mutually Assured Destruction.
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Question: Would Bush like to completely destroy Cuba?

Answer: Yes.
Actually, Bush could care less about Cuba, he doesn't want it destroyed because it is no threat. Unless you equate not lifting embargos to desired destruction.

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But anyway, that "map" quote was taken out of context and it has been argued here many times about the actual words used and meaning of it, plus how stupid do you think Ahmadinejihad is? If he were to attack Israel US and British nukes, among others, would be pointing at Iran before you can say Mutually Assured Destruction.
I actually think he is really stupid and would do something to martyr himself.
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Considering that Iran is not a muslim nation, many of the muslim nations will not jump to it's aid, and a quick, coordinated strike will leave them militarily helpless.
Actually, Iran is a Muslim nation, in the broad sense of that term; but it is not an Arab nation. And in the event of war, it is most unlikely that Sunni-majority nations, such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan would rush to the aid of their Shiite-majority rival.
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Actually, Iran is a Muslim nation, in the broad sense of that term; but it is not an Arab nation. And in the event of war, it is most unlikely that Sunni-majority nations, such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Jordan would rush to the aid of their Shiite-majority rival.
You're right, thank you for catching that.
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Actually, Bush could care less about Cuba, he doesn't want it destroyed because it is no threat. Unless you equate not lifting embargos to desired destruction.
He has actaully made very similar comments regarding Cuba as Ahmadinejad said of Israel.

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I actually think he is really stupid and would do something to martyr himself.
Ahmadinejad doesn't have the power to make any such decisions. So what he wouild do is kinda irrelevant. Only the supreme leader Khamenei has the sort of power required to take the big decisions. I dont think we can paint him as some kind of idiot.

Also what you said about
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Iran's nuclear project is not a military target, so if that is hit it becomes fair game for Iran to respond by hitting non military targets.
To declare that "Iran's nuclear project is not a military target" is to imply that it is intended for purely peaceful, domestic purposes. And it is very hard for me to imagine a better example of an absurdity.
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He has actaully made very similar comments regarding Cuba as Ahmadinejad said of Israel.
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Ahmadinejad doesn't have the power to make any such decisions. So what he wouild do is kinda irrelevant. Only the supreme leader Khamenei has the sort of power required to take the big decisions. I dont think we can paint him as some kind of idiot.
He is their president.
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