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Old 06-25-2008, 08:57 AM
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Iran has directly threatened Israel.
They have not. It's the other way around.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:35 PM
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They have not. It's the other way around.
Iran has indeed threatened Israel.

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One of Iran’s most influential ruling cleric called Friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".

"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.

Analysts said not only Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani’s speech was the strongest against Israel, but also this is the first time that a prominent leader of the Islamic Republic openly suggests the use of nuclear weapon against the Jewish State.
RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:43 PM
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Meanwhile, the guy who is actually in charge of Iran says that nuclear weapons, and one would presume their use, are against Islam.

Khamenei rejects charges Iran seeking nuclear bomb - Yahoo! News
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:45 PM
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They have not. It's the other way around.
You are in error. While there is no doubt Israel would be inclined to do a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent them from obtaining nuclear weapons, it is no secret that Iran has a long history of wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.

As for me, well, I'm all for any nation developing any weapons technology it wants to develop.
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Meanwhile, the guy who is actually in charge of Iran says that nuclear weapons, and one would presume their use, are against Islam.

Khamenei rejects charges Iran seeking nuclear bomb - Yahoo! News
Yes, but he's just one man and clearly incapable of controlling what goes on in his country.
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Yes, but he's just one man and clearly incapable of controlling what goes on in his country.
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Evidence to support that?
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You are in error. While there is no doubt Israel would be inclined to do a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent them from obtaining nuclear weapons, it is no secret that Iran has a long history of wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.
I am actually gobsmacked that there are people who still believe that. The words "wipe off the map" were never uttered.

What was actuially said

Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

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"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"


I guess Lenin was correct that a lie told often enough becomes truth.
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Even IF ( a big "IF") this administration isn't "stupid enough to launch airstrikes", the Israelies could go ahead with airstrikes. That would most likely pull the US into the subsequent mideast conflict (or WWIII).
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Iran has indeed threatened Israel.
That is not a threat. That is an evaluation of a what if scenario.
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Evidence to support that?
Let's start with his not keeping Hashemi-Rafsanjani from making a speech about obtaining nuclear weapons. If nukes are contrary to Islam, why would the leader of an Islamic republic allow a Muslim cleric to essentially commit treason by supporting Iran's right to commit this sin (obtaining nukes) against Islam?
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