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Old 07-10-2008, 07:12 AM
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Here is something everyone can understand. You think gas prices are high right now, just think how high they would be if we attack Iran. Iran's oil fields would shut down or greatly reduce their output. It would be my wild guess that the split second the speculators heard anything about an impending attack, there would be a rush to buy oil futures with the expectation of the price increase. This would increase the price at the pump even higher.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:10 PM
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Here is something everyone can understand. You think gas prices are high right now, just think how high they would be if we attack Iran. Iran's oil fields would shut down or greatly reduce their output. It would be my wild guess that the split second the speculators heard anything about an impending attack, there would be a rush to buy oil futures with the expectation of the price increase. This would increase the price at the pump even higher.
Plus Iraq's oil, Saudi Arabia and anyone else who backs the zionist/US attack will see their oilfields destroyed. Prices will skyrocket.
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Here is something everyone can understand. You think gas prices are high right now, just think how high they would be if we attack Iran. Iran's oil fields would shut down or greatly reduce their output. It would be my wild guess that the split second the speculators heard anything about an impending attack, there would be a rush to buy oil futures with the expectation of the price increase. This would increase the price at the pump even higher.
I don't believe that a desire for material comforts and conveniences, however understandable and reasonable, should trump the need to protect our national security and guard against the possibility of national humiliation--as regarding which, there is no comfort or convenience, nor even any combination of them, so glorious as to make such a sacrifice worthwhile.

Iran's incipient nuclear program is a threat to our national honor, as a nuclear-armed Iran would be in a position to bully its neighbors into reducing oil production in order to drive up prices, thereby inflicting great economic damage upon The Great Satan; and the mullahs would expect the US to approach their terrorist regime obsequiously, thereby resulting in our national humiliation.

A nuclear-armed Iran is also a threat to the entire West, and especially so to Europe. But most of all, it is an existential threat to tiny Israel, which it could easily obliterate with nukes. Which is precisely why I believe Israel will never allow Tehran to acquire them, regardless of whether the Jewish state's air strikes receive Washington's stamp of approval.

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Old 08-07-2008, 05:08 AM
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A nuclear-armed Iran is also a threat to the entire West, and especially so to Europe. But most of all, it is an existential threat to tiny Israel, which it could easily obliterate with nukes. Which is precisely why I believe Israel will never allow Tehran to acquire them, regardless of whether the Jewish state's air strikes receive Washington's stamp of approval.
That is what I think too, It is a matter of death or live for Israel.
but I am not so sure about the real capabilities of the Iranian nuclear program, It might be just a huge bubble of media bull****...and some parties in the west are feeding that bubble to serve their personal interests.
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yes iran may seem to be a threat, and probably is to israel. however, i imagine their military is really pretty shoddy, similar to iraq's - which were supposedly top notch, turned out to be anything but. their photos of missiles were doctored, so its probably sable rattling

however, while iran may need to be 'taken care of' should we do that at the risk of the US/world economy? oil/gas prices will skyrocket yet again. the country, along with most countries needing gas/oil, will be hit big time by the ramifications of gas (it could double). i do not think its worth sinking the economy and nation for iran.
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:47 AM
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however, while iran may need to be 'taken care of' should we do that at the risk of the US/world economy? .....
Can we afford to do nothing?
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Can we afford to do nothing?
Based on what Iraq currently costing us, can we afford to do anything?
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:24 PM
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Nice dodge, but you failed to answer my question.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:29 PM
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Nice dodge, but you failed to answer my question.
One should be able to tell that I feel, "yes" we can afford to do nothing, based on the answer.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:01 PM
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One should be able to tell that I feel, "yes" we can afford to do nothing, based on the answer.
I would argue that to do nothing, risking annihilation of an important ally in the region, is the much more expensive option.
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