How Iran would retaliate if it comes to war - Page 6 - Political Fever

jafar00 · #51 (**permalink**) 06-22-2008, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve burns

If someone is looking to buy a gun, and threatening to wipe me off the map, I would not wait to see if it is only rhetoric. If you threaten someone, be prepared for the consequences. Unfortunately, the die is already cast. They cannot ignore threats from a madman, nor wait till he has nuclear weapons. the rest of the Middle East considers him a threat as well, to their safety.

But, Iran has only threatened Israel in the deliberately mistranslated and twisted words of the western press. They have made no actual threat except if you include the threat to retaliate if attacked.

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Originally Posted by mlurp

For all who love the Arabs so much and defend Islam please answer why not one of the terrorist is following Muhammad words in my siggy at the very bottom. Yea tell me the answer to the hate so deep it means blood must flow. And stop blaming the USA or Israel for their hate which goes beyond the terrorist.. Wake up and see some light.

Yes, first these "terrorists" are not following Islam anyway, and second, where did you get these words? If you are quoting a Hadith of the Prophet Muhammed(saw), you should include references and the chain of transmission so that the validity of the quote can be traced. Without this, how do we know the quote wasn't made up by someone else?

leviathon435 · #52 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mlurp

For all who love the Arabs so much and defend Islam please answer why not one of the terrorist is following Muhammad words in my siggy at the very bottom. Yea tell me the answer to the hate so deep it means blood must flow. And stop blaming the USA or Israel for their hate which goes beyond the terrorist.. Wake up and see some light.

Do you have to work at playing the idiot or does it just come naturally? Your quote from the prophet (SAW) is part of Islam, disobeying that is going against Islam, therefore the terrorists are proving that they are not muslim. Your quote proves what Bosco wants to say!

TheStripey1 · #53 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oregon Elephant

Actually, I've aways wanted to be a fighter pilot, went through the entire Avaition Challange program (which is several years), where we learned a lot of information on all the different types planes, military and commercial. We learned how to fly and even got to do it in real planes (okay, old prop planes like crop dusters, but it was still flying and being behind the controls), we had simulators (actual ones, not just video games) where I won the top gun award for my team twice. I've also studied most of the US wars (with emphasis on WW2), part of the thing of falling asleep to the history channel every night when their night programs are things like Mail Call and famous dog fights and other educational military style shows.

You don't have to be a member of the military to know that ours has a massive technological advantage. Nor do you have to be a part of the military to know what the best path to go about victory would be and to make a logical prediction of the outcome.

BTW, I'm colorblind so I can't fly for the AF, or even get a private pilots license.

I bet they would, but I want to fly, and since I know that they will never let me, there's no point in me trying.

They let John McLame into jet fighter pilot school even though he was fourth in his graduating class at Annapolis... fourth from the BOTTOM that is...

and the republicans call obama elitist...

since you are so well versed in military aviation, perhaps you can tell me how many aircraft a pilot can lose before he is grounded?

Are you saying that you would defend our country and way of life ONLY if you could fly aircraft while doing it and since you can't, you don't care about our way of life?

is that what you are saying????

why I'm amazed... simply amazed...

TheStripey1 · #54 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourne

You might recall that the initial Iraq invasion was a "cake walk." The occupation is when problems developed. Not so with a pre-emptive strike against Iran where our only goal is to wipe out their nuclear capability.

so you believe that there would be no retaliations if we destroyed their infrastructure and killed a few thousand of their citizens?

TheStripey1 · #55 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Black Ghost

Actually that was Germany. There were two private firms that illegally sold chemicals to Iraq prior to the war, but besides that no gas or chemical weaponry was legally sent to Iraq from the US. The US did assist Iraq at the time because it was against a common enemy, but its aid militarily to Iraq was much less than other nations. Beleive it or not, Russia sold 60% of foreign weaponry to Iraq over the Cold War years, despite the fact that Russia ended up backing Iran and the US backed Iraq.

Link?

TheStripey1 · #56 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve burns

If someone is looking to buy a gun, and threatening to wipe me off the map, I would not wait to see if it is only rhetoric. If you threaten someone, be prepared for the consequences. Unfortunately, the die is already cast. They cannot ignore threats from a madman, nor wait till he has nuclear weapons. the rest of the Middle East considers him a threat as well, to their safety.

What wouuld you do, Steve? Buy a gun and kill him first? And when that act of stupidity lands your a$s in jail, what then? say... he started it??

Iraq doesn't... maliki has cozied up to Iran much to the chagrin of our military...

Oregon Elephant · #57 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheStripey1

They let John McLame into jet fighter pilot school even though he was fourth in his graduating class at Annapolis... fourth from the BOTTOM that is...

That is his problem, I don't see how it relates to me.

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and the republicans call obama elitist...

Again, this in no way relates to me.

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since you are so well versed in military aviation, perhaps you can tell me how many aircraft a pilot can lose before he is grounded?

It entirely depends on the circumstances behind each plane lost, and they are able to play favorites if they choose.

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Are you saying that you would defend our country and way of life ONLY if you could fly aircraft while doing it and since you can't, you don't care about our way of life?

is that what you are saying????

why I'm amazed... simply amazed...

You jump to conclusions way too quickly, saying that I won't serve in the military because I can't fly doesn't mean that I don't care about our way of life. It means that fighting on the ground in Iraq (or Afghanistan) is not something important enough that I feel to risk my life for. Just about everyone on this forum feels the same way whether they admit it or not. If they felt that going to Iraq or Afghanistan was worth risking their life, they'd be doing it, but they're not, so they must feel that it is not.

Steve burns · #58 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheStripey1

What wouuld you do, Steve? Buy a gun and kill him first? And when that act of stupidity lands your a$s in jail, what then? say... he started it??

Iraq doesn't... maliki has cozied up to Iran much to the chagrin of our military...

Dont know about you, but if someone threatens me, and is looking to buy a big gun...there is no question I would act first. If he is not serious, dont threaten. I wont wait to "see" if he is just mouthing off.

Comrade Joe · #59 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 10:27 PM

The response? The oilfields in the gulf will go up in a blaze. If you are pissed at oil prices now you wont know what's hit you then.

dc2ga · #60 (**permalink**) 06-25-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourne

No, it wouldn't be wonderful. Fortunately, it's unlikely to happen.

You admit that you don't understand military capabilities yet you assume Iran has superior abilities. That is a foolish assumption. We could level Iran in days without putting one boot on the ground.

first, i still just cant see the US doing something so unpopular and stupid like attacking iran. not as sure about israel launching an attack (which would probably be claimed to come from the US anyway). the consequences would be a disaster.

however, in the event it does happen you are probably right that we would level them. i recall all the talk of iraq, gas, wmd, how 'elite' their army was and look what happened. they were barely able to put up a fight

i would imagine iran is probably saber rattling in the same manner. they are probably stronger militarily than iraq. hopefully their weapons and missiles would be included in the attack hence their ability to launch a counterattack would be more limited

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