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Old 06-21-2008, 09:52 AM
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Israel has no right to strike Iran. There's been rhetoric from a president who is deeply unpopular and isn't even the real authority in the country.

If Iran was sent "back to the Stone Age" they'd just be getting in ahead of the rest of us. There would be a conflagration.
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Israel has no right to strike Iran. There's been rhetoric from a president who is deeply unpopular and isn't even the real authority in the country.

If Iran was sent "back to the Stone Age" they'd just be getting in ahead of the rest of us. There would be a conflagration.
If someone is looking to buy a gun, and threatening to wipe me off the map, I would not wait to see if it is only rhetoric. If you threaten someone, be prepared for the consequences. Unfortunately, the die is already cast. They cannot ignore threats from a madman, nor wait till he has nuclear weapons. the rest of the Middle East considers him a threat as well, to their safety.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:37 PM
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Wouldn't that be wonderful?!
I know little of military strategy and such but the issue is moot anyway and I do know that American soldiers and their British counterparts are bogged down in Iraq and Afghanistan "getting killed by people armed with AKs and primitive rockets, so who knows what a modern army, well organsied, could do".
You mean the army of Iran? That sent 10's of thousands of teens against the machine guns of Iraq armed with nothing more than sacred copies of the quran?
That fought the AK armed Iraqi force for eight years to a stalemate? That advanced military?
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Israel has no right to strike Iran. There's been rhetoric from a president who is deeply unpopular and isn't even the real authority in the country.
If Ahmenjhinedad is not the "real authority" of Iran, why is he allowed to speak for Iran? Why would the real authority allow a moron to publicly stick his foot in their mouth? Why would that authority not in kind publicly challenge his position?
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Your article fails to mention what the effects of a massive pre-emptive strike would be against Iranian military targets. We would effectively devestate Iran.
I believe Hillary got it right. There would be one large hole in the sands of once was Iran.

And why is it always about us doing them. Hell Israel has said it plain and simple and the Jew's don't lie or play games. We will open the door for them while taking out radar and enemy sites of triple AAA and Sam sites. I still don't think weh ave the right bunker buster unless we dump after Israel and just make the holes wider.

And about the gas I guess that will open our off shore sites and maybe Alaska.

And how would Iran leadership respond, like the clowns they are!
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For all who love the Arabs so much and defend Islam please answer why not one of the terrorist is following Muhammad words in my siggy at the very bottom. Yea tell me the answer to the hate so deep it means blood must flow. And stop blaming the USA or Israel for their hate which goes beyond the terrorist.. Wake up and see some light.
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For all who love the Arabs so much and defend Islam please answer why not one of the terrorist is following Muhammad words in my siggy at the very bottom.
If you had the slightest element of intelligance you would realise that the majority of those "terrorists" are not proper muslims as they do not follow the word of the Quran correctly. You would also realise that the leaders of these groups use religion as a political tool. Again you have proven your open mindeness with use of terms such as "the Arabs" and "those who defend Islam". And of course lumping all muslims as being terrorists.

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Yea tell me the answer to the hate so deep it means
blood must flow. And stop blaming the USA or Israel for their hate which goes beyond the terrorist.. Wake up and see some light.
This hatred is entirely political, and why does blood flow? Well thats because the Zionist state and their parent state make it flow, so why dont you stop making excuses for the USA and Israel and start observing the truth.
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If Ahmenjhinedad is not the "real authority" of Iran, why is he allowed to speak for Iran? Why would the real authority allow a moron to publicly stick his foot in their mouth? Why would that authority not in kind publicly challenge his position?
They let him do the propaganda work for them while they control the country. In terms of foreign policy - that is actual action - he's done nothing. He's a gasbag and they let him rave on.
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If someone is looking to buy a gun, and threatening to wipe me off the map, I would not wait to see if it is only rhetoric. If you threaten someone, be prepared for the consequences. Unfortunately, the die is already cast. They cannot ignore threats from a madman, nor wait till he has nuclear weapons. the rest of the Middle East considers him a threat as well, to their safety.
Fortunately foreign policy isn't decided upon using analogies, if it was then the Earth would have been a pile of nuclear ash years ago. Ahmadinejad isn't mad. He's a mouthpiece and he's not in control. Iran has a supreme leader and it isn't him. Now, as far as the nuclear issue goes, yes, they need to be watched and the inspection regime has to continue. I wouldn't want Iran to get nuclear weapons, one nuclear nation in the Middle East is enough. But attacking Iran isn't warranted at this stage.
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They let him do the propaganda work for them while they control the country. In terms of foreign policy - that is actual action - he's done nothing. He's a gasbag and they let him rave on.
Their silence is tantamount to support. Making them just as responsible and lending credence to the threat that he represents.
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