Well it still is a war, even if some politicians have no clue. Lots of links in the story at the site.

Suicide car bomb kills US soldier, wounds 18 By SAMEER N. YACOUB, Associated Press Writer
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Suicide car bomb kills US soldier, wounds 18 - Yahoo! News

BAGHDAD - A suicide truck bomber who concealed his explosives under tanned animal hides struck a U.S. patrol base Sunday in northern Iraq, killing one U.S. soldier and wounding 18 other Americans, U.S. and Iraqi officials said.

Two Iraqi contractors working at the base in Tamim province also were wounded, according to a brief statement from the military.

Tamim has a mixed population of Arabs, Kurds and Turkomen, with the oil-rich city of Kirkuk as its capital. Three American soldiers were killed last Wednesday by gunfire in Tamim.

Brig. Sarhat Qadir, a senior officer in the Kirkuk police department, said the bomber targeted a U.S. patrol base in a mostly Sunni Arab residential area in Rashad, about 25 miles southwest of Kirkuk.

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Yes there are still isolated spouts of violence.



Sad how easy it is for terrorists...um I mean "freedom fighters"... to kill a lot of people so easily. It wasnt a battle though, it was still just one guy, and if mass killing is that easy in warfare now you can imagine how difficult a job it is to stop these people.

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I don't see it as a war, but an occupation. A war is much more black and white, there is a better understanding of what is going on, there are two sides, and both sides are fighting against each other to reach certian goals. But we are not really fighting as in going on the offense, we are trying to stay on the defense and protect. Protect the civilians and to protect the government.

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Precisely.

If there had been no threat and total cooperaiton in 2003 by all Iraqis in making a new governement, we would have left by 2004 for sure. Obviously that didnt happen.

The insurgents knew we would leave if there was no threat, but yet insurgency and militant leaders pressed to fight anyways. This is the sign of powerful men vying for more power by rallying people against a common enemy or cause.

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"...Follow the crystal star to the pyre of the flame; there exists the dwelling of the spreading fire. The heart of this life rests upon the fate of that place, and what begins there sends a contagion to the rest of the universe.
As long as the fire burns we shall never be free..." (The Shadows of Yavara, Final Reclamation)

i dont care what anyone wants to call it. i just want us out of there now