Some Dem Senators slip immigration bill in - Political Fever

mlurp · #1 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 10:59 PM

Anyone hear what some Dem senators did? CA., Finestine and others slipped a immigration 100 page bill into a extra supply bill for our forces. It comes up this week for a vote so if your not for it e-mail your Congressperson/Senators.

I am sure that the Dem party is working to have 4 more years of Bush by helping McCain win in Nov. If you think we have 2 party system of govt. then I have land in Iraq up for sale cheap. I will put $ that McCain wins it all. And believe me that is about the worst thing that can happen to us.

Michael · #2 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 08:25 AM

Are you saying there was no discussion about the bill? Is there a source to get details about the bill?

If that is what it is, I don't approve of things being added to legislation after discussion on the bill has ended and the before the president signs the bill. My basic position has been not to trust either party since the Vietnam War, and both parties use this trick. Recently, a Republican had slipped into a bill a tax loophole for the US contractors in Iraq that would have saved them billions of dollars. No discussion, such one little corporate prostitute weasel slinking around the halls of congress. Then there is Ted Stevens (R, Alaska) that rewrote a pork project attached a bill to benefit a housing contractor after the contractor had wined, dined and bribed him. Then there was ol' Tom the Hammer DeLay that closed all discussion on the 2005 Energy Bill and then slipped in a pork project providing millions of dollars to a special agency he would appoint to give Texas oil companies special incentives (in short, bribing them for their support for the next election).

Lumara · #3 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 09:15 AM

Yes I'm aware that amnesty provisions for illegals were inserted into the war spending bill and I'm totally disgusted by this nefarious practice of inserting unrelated legislation into major bills. Here is the info I received in an email from Downsize DC about this:

Quote:

From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Thursday 15MAY08 4:30 p.m. EDT

Senate committee adds amnesty for 1.2 million illegal ag workers to Iraq spending bill -- PHONE NOW

DEAR FRIENDS,

On a 17-12 vote this afternoon, the Senate Appropriations Committee added Sen. Feinstein's ag amnesty to the Iraq supplemental spending bill.

This bill could come up for a vote before the full Senate tomorrow.

Every phone of every Senator should be ringing off the hook as soon as I click SEND on this alert.

Please pick up your phone the minute you read this and call:
202-224-3121

Call the offices of both of your state's U.S. Senators and tell them:

# The Senate Appropriations Committee on Thursday afternoon committed an outrageous act of disrespect for our men and women in uniform and to the citizens of this country by attaching an illegal-alien amnesty to the Iraq spending bill.

# Urge the Senator to vote and work to strip the amnesty from the Iraq spending bill on the floor.

# You - or the Senator - may already oppose this spending bill. But if the Senator is inclined to vote YES on the Iraq bill, ask the Senator to definitely vote NO and send it back to committee if the amnesty is NOT stripped.

# There is no need for an amnesty to provide growers with workers. There already is an H-2A foreign ag worker program that provides growers with an unlimited number of temporary workers if the growers agree to pay a decent wage and ensure that they go home at the end of the season. Feinstein is just trying to protect the abysmally low wages and bad working conditions that farmworkers labor under.

Here are additional talking points (and the names of your two Senators, plus additional phone numbers):

Log In To NumbersUSA

Expect that many staffers will either have no idea what is going on or will be lying to you. Some of you were reporting to us that Sen. Feinstein's staffers were telling you that she had no intention of attaching an amnesty this afternoon at the precise time that the committee was voting on her proposal to attach!!!!!

Unless Senators see an outpouring of disgust and outrage similar to what you waged a year ago, they will interpret it to be safe to vote an amnesty this year.

Besides an estimated 1.2 million illegal alien ag workers, all the millions of illegal aliens in their families would apparently get an amnesty, also.

Good luck. You are the only force that stands between some semblance of the rule of law and massive rewards for illegal immigration.

THANKS,

P.S. We will be constantly adding new information as we obtain it on our home page at: NumbersUSA A lot of details are still fuzzy right now. Please keep checking back to our home page.

P.S.S. Just as I was starting to click the SEND button, this report arrived from The Hill news service:

The so-called Ag-Jobs amendment, sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Larry Craig (R-Idaho), would create a process that allows undocumented workers to continue to work on farms. Without the amendment, Feinstein warned that the U.S. would lose $5-9 billion to foreign competition, tens of thousands of farms would shut down and 80,000 workers would be transferred to Mexico.

The bill would sunset in five years.

NOTE FROM ROY: Open-borders supporters believe that if they can just help illegal aliens sink roots for a few more years that it will be impossible for the government later to try to make them leave.

My staff is just now reading through Feinstein's language and tell me that it looks like she will give all illegals the chance to adjust to permanent status and path to citizenship at the end of the five years.

"Agriculture needs a consistent workforce," Feinstein said. "Without it, they can't plant, they can't prune, they can't pick and they can't pack.

"This is an emergency situation," she added.

The amendment was approved by a 17-12 vote with defections from both parties. Critics say the amendment amounts to amnesty for people who entered the country illegally. A broader comprehensive immigration overhaul, with a path for citizenship for the nation's estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, failed in a divisive Senate vote last year.

"No matter how one characterizes it, this enormous amendment still amounts to amnesty," said Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.). "I oppose amnesty. All these immigration issues should be addressed through the regular order."

mlurp · #4 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael

Are you saying there was no discussion about the bill? Is there a source to get details about the bill?

If that is what it is, I don't approve of things being added to legislation after discussion on the bill has ended and the before the president signs the bill. My basic position has been not to trust either party since the Vietnam War, and both parties use this trick. Recently, a Republican had slipped into a bill a tax loophole for the US contractors in Iraq that would have saved them billions of dollars. No discussion, such one little corporate prostitute weasel slinking around the halls of congress. Then there is Ted Stevens (R, Alaska) that rewrote a pork project attached a bill to benefit a housing contractor after the contractor had wined, dined and bribed him. Then there was ol' Tom the Hammer DeLay that closed all discussion on the 2005 Energy Bill and then slipped in a pork project providing millions of dollars to a special agency he would appoint to give Texas oil companies special incentives (in short, bribing them for their support for the next election).

Sorry at the time I heard it on Lou Dobbs. See next post for all the info. The Senator who heads the Armed Forces Committee was surprised as no discussion was ever made to him or his members. It passed the house (if I understood him correctly) and will be in for a Senate vote very soon.

mlurp · #5 (**permalink**) 05-20-2008, 12:44 PM

Just took a google search to find this. Michelle Malkin Update: More details

Amnesty alert: Feinstein reportedly trying to sneak one through Update: Yup, it’s in there; Update: More details
By Michelle Malkin • May 15, 2008 02:35 PM Scroll down for updates…Feinstein/Craig amendment passes…More details….

My friends at NumbersUSA have sent out a warning that Sen. Dianne Feinstein may attempt to sneak an illegal alien amnesty measure into the Iraq supplemental war spending bill. (Yes, the same bill the White House is trying to stuff the Merida Initiative into, too.)

More info:

Our NumbersUSA Capitol Hill Team got several confirmations through both Democratic and Republican sources that Sen. Feinstein (D-Calif.) was preparing to add an [agricultural] amnesty to the Iraq bill Thursday afternoon in the Senate Appropriations Committee.

We don’t know the details of the amnesty. There is some chance she may try to slip it through by not including permanent legalization but just giving one or two million illegal ag workers a 5-year amnesty that allows them to work and live here while further sinking roots. The open-borders champions hope that the longer illegal aliens stay the more difficult it will ever be to deny them U.S. citizenship.

We need phone calls into the offices of members of the Senate Appropriations Committee — massively and immediately!

202-224-3121

If you live in the state of one of these Senators, please make a phone call immediately.

If you don’t have a Senator on the Committee, you may want to call a Senator in another state with which you have some attachment. We particularly need extra phone calls to Senators from small-population states.

Here are the Appropriations Senators who need your call:

Alexander (R-Tenn.)
Allard (R-Colo.)
Byrd (D-West Va.)
Bennett (R-Utah)
Bond (R-Mo.)
Brownback (R-Kan.)
Cochran (R-Miss.)
Craig (R-Idaho)
Domenici (R-N.M.)
Dorgan (D-N.D.)
Durbin (D-Ill.)
Feinstein (D-Calif.)
Gregg (R-N.H.)
Harkin (D-Iowa)
Hutchison (R-Texas)
Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Johnson (D-S.D.)
Kohl (D-Wis.)
Landrieu (D-La.)
Lautenberg (D-N.J.)
Leahy (D-Vt.)
McConnell (R-Ky.)
Mikulski (D-Md.)
Murray (D-Wash)
Nelson (D-Neb.)
Reed (D-R.I.)
Shelby (R-Ala.)
Specter (R-Pa.)
Stevens (R-Alaska)

…North Carolina growers, for example, have set up a North Carolina Growers Association that meets all of the ag labor needs through local workers and through legal foreign workers brought through the H-2A visa which ensures that the guest workers go home. Why shouldn’t California growers play by the same rules as law-abiding farmers in other states?

Based on past experience, there is a good chance that Feinstein will decide not to introduce her amnesty Thursday afternoon if she feels there is a major move against it. That’s what we want. Please let every member of the committee know just how worked up citizens get as soon as they hear of a possibility of an amnesty.

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