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Old 12-02-2007, 10:09 AM
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I dont trust Russia to much, based on generaly what happens there all the time
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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True but with the equipment they do have I wouldn't want them to cross that line period. But (and there is always a but) with our treaties with Europe and Taiwan Which I went to on R&R in 1967, and don't think war with China is worth that Island. But the people now that is a hard one to settle in my mind. But true we hear only rattle of their sabers. What is you best thoughts on the ever changing situation? George A. Peterson
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Russia to showcase new-generation subs at maritime exhibition
03/ 12/ 2007

MOSCOW, December 3 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will present its new-generation Amur-1650 class submarine at an international maritime exhibition in Malaysia, Russia's state-controlled arms exporter said on Monday.

The Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (LIMA) 2007 exhibition will take place on December 4-8 at the Mahsuri International Exhibition Center (MIEC).

"The submarines will include Project 636 [submarines] with an integrated missile complex, Club-S, and the next-generation Amur-1650 submarine," Rosoboronexport said in a press release.

The Project 677 or Lada-class submarines have been designed to engage surface ships and submarines as well as to perform surveillance, mine laying, and special operation forces deployment missions.

Long range anti-ship missiles, rockets, torpedoes and mines can be fired from the torpedo tubes at the bow.

The ninth edition of the biennial LIMA is expected to be the biggest ever with more than 250 companies from 26 countries taking part in the aerospace exhibition alone.

They include Australia, Brazil, the United Kingdom, France, Hong Kong, India, Germany, Italy, Japan, Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore and Spain.

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Russia launches new nuclear submarine



A fourth-generation strategic nuclear submarine was launched during a special ceremony at a shipbuilding yard in northern Russia.
The Yury Dolgoruky, a Borey-class nuclear missile submarine, was built at the Sevmash plant in the northern Arkhangelsk Region. It will be equipped with the Bulava ballistic missile, which is adapted from the Topol-M (SS-27).

The submarine has a length of 170 meters (580 feet), a body diameter around 13 meters (42 feet), and a submerged speed of about 29 knots. It can carry up to 16 ballistic missiles.



Left to right: Moscow Mayor Yury Luzhkov, Russian Deputy Defense Minister General Alexei Moskovsky, First Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov and Pavel Nychko, chief representative of the Defense Ministry in Severodvinsk, signing the work-completion act before the launch ceremony for the new nuclear missile submarine Yury Dolgoruky.

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