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Old 11-22-2007, 11:16 AM
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Violence in Iraq has fallen at a rate that has surprised military commanders and even one of the architects of the “surge” that boosted US troop numbers in the country this year, according to figures gathered by the US.

The figures show the numbers of suicide attacks, roadside bombings, mortar and other attacks on US forces and on the Iraqi population have more than halved since 30,000 extra troops in June.

The military attributes the decline to the surge, the spread of local ceasefire deals across Iraq, a ceasefire by radical Shia militias and an improvement in the Iraqi security forces.

Jack Keane, the former army general who helped persuade George W. Bush, US president, to increase troop numbers in Iraq, said the decrease in violence was “phenomenal” and had occurred far faster than he had expected.

“When you understand you are dealing with the complexity of a counter-insurgency operation which can take years to resolve, to have this dramatic a success in a short period of time, it’s unprecedented,” he said.

The US military says the number of civilian deaths has also fallen 60 per cent since the surge took effect, with a drop of 75 per cent in Baghdad. According to icasualties.org, the average monthly US death toll dropped from 96 for the first half of 2007 to 66 in the past four months. The average monthly death toll for Iraqi civilians and security forces has dropped from 2,157 to 1,223 in the same period.

Stephen Biddle, former adviser to General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq, said the most important factor was the spread of ceasefire agreements. He said the “key challenge” now was to make sure they could be adequately policed.

“I am very concerned that if we bring too many of the troops home too fast we leave ourselves without the ability to stabilise these otherwise quite unstable local ceasefire deals.”

While the military displays cautious optimism, however, some experts are less convinced. Anthony Cordesman, a defence expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the statistics did not capture the true picture of violence in Iraq.

“The [numbers] that the coalition counts tend to omit most of the violence in the south, which is Shiite-on-Shiite, and lower-level tensions between Arabs and Kurds. It also doesn’t seem to count Sunni-on-Sunni unless it is al-Qaeda versus anti-al-Qaeda.”
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:57 AM
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Duh. Its thanksgiving time. The holidays are filled with love and laughter. Expect things to pick up again a bit after New Years. Even Jihadists like presents.
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Actually the "holidays" in Iraq (Ramadan) was smack in the middle of this drop in violence. Usually Ramadan is met with INCREASED violence since deeds against us kuffars get more richly rewarded when done in allah's holy month.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:32 PM
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well HELLO Mr Know it all.

Who are you, Encyclopedia Brown?
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:45 PM
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Actually the "holidays" in Iraq (Ramadan) was smack in the middle of this drop in violence. Usually Ramadan is met with INCREASED violence since deeds against us kuffars get more richly rewarded when done in allah's holy month.
Actually, killing a few thousand Iraqi's over the last few months made them realize they are nothing but cannon fodder.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:47 PM
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Actually, killing a few thousand Iraqi's over the last few months made them realize they are nothing but cannon fodder.
and how the hell do you know that? are you some sort of Islamic Terrorist-Fascist that wants to destroy freedom and democracy?
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Mod...we need a mod....and we need to block guests from posting...
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Cleaned, but left a trace for reference. Missed this yesterday, sorry.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:34 PM
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well HELLO Mr Know it all.

Who are you, Encyclopedia Brown?
No...he's the guy that's doing your homework for you.

You should know, if you have the spine to WANT to learn the truth, that ramadan always brings an up-tick in violence.
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