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Old 11-19-2007, 09:12 PM
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I find this a ridiclous argument personally, but do you think people should say "happy holidays" instead of merry christmas? I just think people are to politically correct.
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no i dont. they should say MERRY CHRISTMAS if they want to. after all, without the reason behind Christmas we wouldnt be celebrating it anyway.

also by attempting to ban its use you are going against one of the very reasons the US was founded in the first place (free speech and free religion)
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Merry Christmas. It is Christmas period. We don't say happy holidays on Passover or Ramadan, etc...
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Whatever they wanna say is fine with me, just don't force everyone to say something because X number of people don't like it.
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I have noticed a few Merry Christmas signs though already and no Happy Holidays...maybe Christmas is making a comeback?
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I have noticed a few Merry Christmas signs though already and no Happy Holidays...maybe Christmas is making a comeback?
Maybe. Hopefully the PC crowd won't whine and bitch and ask for people to take them down.
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That this is even an issue shows what a pathetic, paranoid society and nation we have become.
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That this is even an issue shows what a pathetic, paranoid society and nation we have become.
agreed. ^^ its Christmas and that is what it should be.
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I find this a ridiclous argument personally, but do you think people should say "happy holidays" instead of merry christmas? I just think people are to politically correct.
This is one of my favorite annual topics!

The really funny thing here is that Santa Claus, flying reindeer, decorated evergreen trees and giving gifts to children are all elements of an ancient pagan festival celebrated around the Winter Solstice, long predating the advent of Christianity.

There really is nothing "Christian" about "Christmas" save only the word. Indeed, the Christian Church invented Jesus' birthday and chose that particular date as way to subvert the ancient pagan festival. Irony of ironies, the ancient pagan festival seems to be outliving the Christian re-naming of it.

The actual Christian holy-day of Christmas of course was never listed as even a significant feast-day on any historical religious calendars before the 19th century. Celebration of Christmas pretty much begins in 19th century Victorian England (centered around the fat-guy with the white beard, though his suit was blue back then).

Thus, there is more 'political correctness' here stacked on top of political correctness than you might expect. Certainly to say "happy holidays" is politically correct in a contemporary sense, but even to say "merry Christmas" is to engage in Christian political correctness.

I do find the dispute to be very interesting and highly indicative of the culture war cleavages. The ironies are just bonus!

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Dude, you sound like Brendan Fraser when he was the gay novelist in "Bedazzled" j/k
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