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Old 07-21-2008, 02:25 PM
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Does Buddhism endorse a caste system?
Buddhism is almost entirely about ones inner self, and it is not a set of rules or laws, such as no sex before marriage or homosexuality is a no no.
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Does Buddhism endorse a caste system?
No - the view of karma (key to the Hindu caste system) is far more mutable and interactive. In the Hindu system, caste shows where you are karmically, and all events are preordained. In the Buddhist system, choices you make bring you lessons you need to learn - far more interactive.

BTW - Kabballah - the medieval mystic 'tree of life' from Judaism is also a karmic system that involves reincarnation. It tends more to the Buddhist view - choice is the key there, too.
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Buddhism is almost entirely about ones inner self, and it is not a set of rules or laws, such as no sex before marriage or homosexuality is a no no.
I thought as much.

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No - the view of karma (key to the Hindu caste system) is far more mutable and interactive. In the Hindu system, caste shows where you are karmically, and all events are preordained. In the Buddhist system, choices you make bring you lessons you need to learn - far more interactive.
Well, basically, your duties as a member of your caste (I'm not sure how to spell it, but I think it's dharma) define your karma. If you've fulfilled your duties, then you get good karma and move up.

But Buddhism doesn't even have a caste system, right?
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Wow, I was only thinking of "chaste" in the terms of sex and not the broader picture of "pureness."
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I thought as much.



Well, basically, your duties as a member of your caste (I'm not sure how to spell it, but I think it's dharma) define your karma. If you've fulfilled your duties, then you get good karma and move up.

But Buddhism doesn't even have a caste system, right?
No it doesn't have a caste system, well not that I know of.
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The Abrahmic religions are all basically the same, because they all had the same origin, but they have very little in common with Hinduism and the Chinese religions. It is debatable as to whether or not Buddhism is even really a religion. Shinto, in Japan, has more in common with old European Paganism than anything else, but almost nothing to do with modern Neo-Pagans.

In short, no. The only basic similarity between religions is the criteria that makes them religions.
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Gods/religions have been said to be the "dumping ground of our dreams". Because religions are purely human creations, it's not too amazing that all religions share certain universal commonalities...mimicking the universally human experience.

Some get into chicken/egg arguments over who made who in who's image, but the bottom line result is that religions fill some primal need for external and cosmic validation and meaning. And, there's only so many ways religion can do that and be considered palatable, marketable and relevant.

Besides, if some religion becomes too dissimilar, it's no longer very recognizeable as a religion at all.
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The Abrahmic religions are all basically the same, because they all had the same origin, but they have very little in common with Hinduism and the Chinese religions. It is debatable as to whether or not Buddhism is even really a religion. Shinto, in Japan, has more in common with old European Paganism than anything else, but almost nothing to do with modern Neo-Pagans.

In short, no. The only basic similarity between religions is the criteria that makes them religions.
Right. Besides the monotheistic ones, anyway.
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Right. Besides the monotheistic ones, anyway.
And there are those who don't believe Christianity is monotheistic - so even that is subject to debate.

On the other hand, someone once wronte a Masters Thesis on Magic that had as a central premise that all religion work as energy moving systems. Read that sucker years ago - can't even recall the name.
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Well, I guess you could argue that Christianity is not monotheistic, but Jesus and the Holy Spirit are really just extensions of the same god.
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