Welcome to Political Fever - The Political Debate Forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest with limited access. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You can also take part in our Private Debates where you can test your skills against an opponent. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us. After you Register the advertisements will disappear on the site!

Go Back   Political Fever - The Political Debate Forums > Political Issues > Religion and Politics

Religion and Politics Discuss how Religion has and does affect the world we live in.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2008, 11:26 PM
Jojo's Avatar
Advisor
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Userid: 686
Posts: 1,824
Rep Power: 2
Jojo has a spectacular aura about
Default Are all fundamentalists the same?

A question - it could be argued that fundamentalism is a mindset, and that all fundamentalists share one world view with different window dressing. Agree? Disagree? No real stake in this - just thought it would be an interesting topic.
__________________
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.
Ernest Benn
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2008, 11:58 PM
Zephyr's Avatar
Obama's Socialist Goon
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Userid: 58
Location: Wouldn't you like to know.
Age: 16
Posts: 4,347
Rep Power: 7
Zephyr is a jewel in the roughZephyr is a jewel in the rough
Default

Yes.
__________________
"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2008, 12:02 AM
debateman's Avatar
Congressman
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Userid: 194
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 888
Rep Power: 1
debateman is on a distinguished road
Default

I think that Fundamentalists are all the same in that they take a concept in which a reasonable person could find doubt and shades of gray and make it a black and white issue. Unfortunately for them, the number of issues that exist in a pluralist society that are black and white are few and far between.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2008, 12:15 AM
Zephyr's Avatar
Obama's Socialist Goon
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Userid: 58
Location: Wouldn't you like to know.
Age: 16
Posts: 4,347
Rep Power: 7
Zephyr is a jewel in the roughZephyr is a jewel in the rough
Default

An excellent definition of fundamentalism.

Seeing everything in black and white.
__________________
"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2008, 12:22 AM
Donkey Jote's Avatar
Sinner
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Userid: 205
Location: Ohio
Age: 20
Posts: 2,913
Rep Power: 3
Donkey Jote has a spectacular aura about
Default

The same? Depends on what you mean by that. In some senses, obviously not, but I think that all fundamentalists share some... fundamental qualities.
__________________
"Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-Joseph Welch
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2008, 12:39 AM
AHFN's Avatar
Evolution in action
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Userid: 715
Location: Noitacol
Age: 17
Posts: 210
Rep Power: 1
AHFN is on a distinguished road
Default

I agree with the definition that Fundamentalists see things in black and white. Fundamentalists may differ on details specific to their religious sect, and even to their particular followers, but the same principle is at work.
__________________
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...."
- The Declaration of Independence
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2008, 10:59 PM
Jojo's Avatar
Advisor
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Userid: 686
Posts: 1,824
Rep Power: 2
Jojo has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donkey Jote View Post
The same? Depends on what you mean by that. In some senses, obviously not, but I think that all fundamentalists share some... fundamental qualities.
Then what is dissimilar are qualities that are not fundamental. I'd say that supports the thesis.
__________________
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.
Ernest Benn
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Jojo's Avatar
Advisor
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Userid: 686
Posts: 1,824
Rep Power: 2
Jojo has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
Yes.
I love the brevity of your response and the eloquence of your sig!
__________________
Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.
Ernest Benn
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-17-2008, 04:27 AM
Technocratic_Utilitarian's Avatar
Elitist Pinko
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Userid: 91
Location: New Jersey
Age: 24
Posts: 2,386
Rep Power: 4
Technocratic_Utilitarian will become famous soon enough
Default

I don't think Fundamentalists are bad because they are black and white: the issue is fairly black and why. Little room for gray. They are just wrong. The real problem is that they are delusional. If they actually believe, for example, in transubstantiation, they are absolutely delusional.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-17-2008, 04:50 AM
Michael's Avatar
Congressman
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Userid: 166
Location: Sierra Mountains
Posts: 7,381
Rep Power: 8
Michael has a spectacular aura about
Default

Meet the Fundies

If you are a fundamentalist, you think in terms of right and wrong, black and white. But the key ingredient is that you have the one and only right way of thinking or believing in God. It's YOUR God.

Fundamentalism is very "possessive."

Then from there you get to lecture down to people. The "juice" fundamentalists feed upon is being on a soapbox lecturing down at others in self righteous designation or standing on someone else's front porch telling them to convert or die and go to hell. There is no room for anyone else in the universe to disagree or have a peer level of belief. That is disallowed. You have a monopoly on the one and only true God. And it is no random accident that the God of your "vision" is a morph photoshopped picture of yourself dressed up as Christ or Moses or Muhammed.
__________________
National Debt =
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On






     Top Political Sites  
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16 AM.
Political Fever 2007/2008
   Word Search   |   Family Friendly   |   AdSense Forum   |   Game Cheats   |   Coupon Codes   |   Spore Game   |   Xcode Forum   |   Political Forums   |   Internet Marketing   |   Social Networking    |   Sudoku   |   Mobile Marketing   |   Web Forms   |   Articles & News   |   Loans & Credit Repair   |   Online Coupon Codes   |   Loans   |   Sudoku Puzzles   |   Map Games   |   Spore Screenshots