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Old 06-26-2008, 09:28 PM
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10 Questions About God

This takes about 11 minutes to watch and is an excellent argument against God's existence. Comments?
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:00 AM
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Not very good. It makes some pretty faulty assumptions. Just on the first one, why won't god hell amputees, he says that god preforms no miricles on amputees, with is an inaccurate statement. Having their limp grow back is not the only miricle that can happen in their lives, they can recieve miricles in other ways.

He actually makes no argument against the existance of god, and the extremely stupid statement that god wrote the bible. How moronic is he? Any christian will tell you that the bible was written by people. He also can't distinguish a metephor from fact.
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Old 06-27-2008, 01:16 AM
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maybe I have been studying religion for way to long. This was utter crap. I could no doubt blow this guy away if he wanted to come here. And I am an atheist.

These are either old arguments, not even well thought out. Guy gives us a bad name.

Dawkins now there is a guy who can make an argument.
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:39 PM
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I agree that he makes several leaps of logic and assumes that Christians believe a certain way. But specifically which points are problems to you?
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Amputees= Miracles are always ambiguous. Proof negates faith.

Joe Campbell Said he was speaking to a member of the clergy. He asked the preist "Can you prove to me there is a god?"
The Priest said "Yes I believe I can"
And Campbell replied :What then sir, is the purpose of faith"

most people of faith will tell you that once the god is proven to exist then faith is no longer needed.

And someones prayer making them grow an arm is pretty convincing evidence.

My favorite part of the VId is where he says nonsince makes no since.
Really that is brilliant.

Most are unthought. I don't want to watch it again really, or I would start taking it apart.

I really would rather it do the work it was intended to do.

the over all Idea, about religion and rational thought being uncomplicated, is accurate.
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Would add that the context of brushing possible arguments away as "some sort of rationalization", Without Analyzing them is just as bad as what Religion does with science.

If he wants to make a point, he should explain why there reasons are rationalized excuses.
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Would add that the context of brushing possible arguments away as "some sort of rationalization", Without Analyzing them is just as bad as what Religion does with science.

If he wants to make a point, he should explain why there reasons are rationalized excuses.
Again, I agree that there are several leaps of logic in the video.
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This is a really bad video and most of its points are somewhat stupid and not well thought out. I also think it is stupid to try to disprove the harmless beleifs of others.

However he did manage to notice the distiction between old and new testaments, which I have as well. There are a lot of contraditions between the thought-processes of the old-testament God and new-testament Jesus.

When you read the Old testament you can see the root of other faiths like Islam and Judaism a bit more clearly. The new testament is almost an ammendment to the old testament for some flaws in its religious thinking.

But I dont really care to be honest. Its none of my business to be poking around at what people think and this guy should have realized that too. If you
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This is a really bad video and most of its points are somewhat stupid and not well thought out. I also think it is stupid to try to disprove the harmless beleifs of others.

However he did manage to notice the distiction between old and new testaments, which I have as well. There are a lot of contraditions between the thought-processes of the old-testament God and new-testament Jesus.

When you read the Old testament you can see the root of other faiths like Islam and Judaism a bit more clearly. The new testament is almost an ammendment to the old testament for some flaws in its religious thinking.

But I dont really care to be honest. Its none of my business to be poking around at what people think and this guy should have realized that too. If you
Are they really harmless, though?
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The belief itself is harmless. How people use that belief is the ultimate answer to "is it harmless?"

No more than, is the belief in a free market harmless, or belief in communism harmless? Beliefs themselves cannot do anything.
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