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Old 06-25-2008, 09:27 PM
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While moslems certainly shouldn't be attacked, injured, or persecuted, I don't see a reason to tolerate their beliefs, as least intellectually. We shouldn't need to tiptoe around the issue of Islam being a violent, dangerous, irrational faerietale. It is. Just like Christianity, except I would argue that in some ways, Christianity can be worse when in the hands of the most powerful nation on Earth. I am afraid of Bush and his theocratic cronies more than Islamic terrorists.

Islam is inherently bad, just as Christianity is inherently bad. Faith itself is bad. Neither are actually compatible with enlightenment values. We just shoehorn them into it and ignore the blatant contradictions.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:46 PM
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Others would call this "intolerance" and I have no problem with people choosing to tolerate some groups/behaviors and not others - as long as they openly stand up for their intolerance and not try to hide behind some doublespeak about political correctness.
I am intolerant. I am intolerant of murder. I am intolerant of theft. I am intolerant of quite a few things. I think tolerance of many things is important, the tolerating of behavior that is different from what you believe is right but does not unwillingly harm others.

The toleration of prostitution or polygamy.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:48 PM
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I think Pjohns is incompatible with tolerance
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You people can shove your tolerance crap back up into your backsides where it belongs!

We all know that the proponents of "tolerance" don't have that tolerance for everyone but, instead, only for groups on their approved list.

Talk to me about tolerance when the tolerant tolerate the intolerant.
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Well this was like a collage freshman study group. I am toleranced out.

I think logical people can make decisions on a case by case basis we dont need to drill in words like "tolerance" to make anything better. I don't think it works.


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I am intolerant. I am intolerant of murder. I am intolerant of theft. I am intolerant of quite a few things. I think tolerance of many things is important, the tolerating of behavior that is different from what you believe is right but does not unwillingly harm others.

The toleration of prostitution or polygamy.
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Tolerating the intolerant is the hypocritical thing.
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Tolerating the intolerant is the hypocritical thing.
Not really.
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Tolerating the intolerant is the hypocritical thing.
But if you don't tolerate the intolerant then you are being intolerant yourself and, so, you have to stop tolerating yourself because you're intolerant.
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But if you don't tolerate the intolerant then you are being intolerant yourself and, so, you have to stop tolerating yourself because you're intolerant.
That sentence has so many occurrences of forms of the word tolerant in it so much it made me laugh.
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But if you don't tolerate the intolerant then you are being intolerant yourself and, so, you have to stop tolerating yourself because you're intolerant.
Wrong. Being intolerant of the intolerant is not intolerance.
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