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Old 06-18-2008, 04:40 PM
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I'm arrogant enough to let my posts stand as a testament to how wrong you are.
Oh, sorry I haven't read the rest of the thread, give me a few minutes to read yours through.
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I'm arrogant enough to let my posts stand as a testament to how wrong you are.
Ok, well I disagree. I'm sure you and many other homeschooled people turned out with a great education and were a credit, but the problem with homeschooling is that it leaves children open to abuse through lack of a good education. At the very least parents wishing to home-school their children should be monitered very closely and be forced to attend courses on proper teaching, though I would still want all parents wishing to home-school their kids to be qualified teachers.
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This reminds me of a classic Humphery (from Yes Minister) quote: "parents are the worst people in the world to raise children, they've got no qualifications to do it!" But there is some sense to what he says, we wouldn't expect parents to perform surgery on their children, or to cure them of a serious illness, we'd leave it to the professionals. And so the same should be true for teaching, no child should be taught by anyone other than a qualified teacher.
So, parents shouldn't teach their infants how to walk or teach their toddlers to use the toilet? After all, that's teaching and they're not qualified.
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You can make the same, or similar, criticisms about plenty of public schools. The only difference is that a parent is only inflicting their ignorance on their own children rather than a classroom.


The only thing you are doing in this thread is demonstrating your remarkable (but common, really) ignorance about homeschooling.
So I am showing my ignorance by citing a Stanford University document indicating that home schooling is poorly regulated in many states? That's a devastating counter argument, really. Did you come up with that yourself?

You can't make the same criticism of most public schools, given most public schools are taught by qualified professionals who have actual degrees. They also tend to have standards. In most schools, creationism won't fly as the natural science curriculum.

You really need to think about what you write first before you hit the submit button. It would fix so many problems I'd have to correct later.
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Ok, well I disagree. I'm sure you and many other homeschooled people turned out with a great education and were a credit, but the problem with homeschooling is that it leaves children open to abuse through lack of a good education.
Well, it's not like they get a good education in American public schools.

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At the very least parents wishing to home-school their children should be monitered very closely and be forced to attend courses on proper teaching, though I would still want all parents wishing to home-school their kids to be qualified teachers.
I am so damn sick and tired of you leftist bastards trying to force your will on other people!
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I discredit the school simply for being leftist - just as I would discredit your link if it had been from Patrick Henry College, a college created mainly for kids that had been homeschooled (I think Patrick Henry would have a fit if he knew his name was being sullied by being applied to such a school).
Discrediting a whole university because you assert it's leftist is the most laughable argument you've yet used. You haven't discredited anything.

A. You haven't demonstrated "leftism" anywhere.
B. Even if it were dominated by left-wing instructors, it doesn't refute the information.

You're commentary is worse than worthless. It's sad and desperate for attention.
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I am so damn sick and tired of you leftist bastards trying to force your will on other people!
I am tired of you rightwingnut bastards trying to force your stupidity on other people. But I deal with it. Learn to cope. Stop blubbering about amorphous leftist conspiracies. It makes you look foolish and whiny. Act your age, son. Shape up. Stop blaming others for your problems.
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So, parents shouldn't teach their infants how to walk or teach their toddlers to use the toilet? After all, that's teaching and they're not qualified.
No, because that's something anyone can do teaching effectively from about 11+ is not. I should probably say now that I'm ok with non-qualified parents teaching their kids up to high school age, that's 11 here.
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Well, it's not like they get a good education in American public schools.

I am so damn sick and tired of you leftist bastards trying to force your will on other people!
Hey now. I'm nothing if not a leftist bastard...
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No, because that's something anyone can do teaching effectively from about 11+ is not. I should probably say now that I'm ok with non-qualified parents teaching their kids up to high school age, that's 11 here.
I survived pretty well until I was 17...
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