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Old 04-21-2008, 11:39 AM
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You don't have to research it. It's clear that if the money for a state issued license plate goes to a religious organization, that's not separating church and state.
But first someone has to challenge the legality. Then that person, and the organization that backs him up, will get demonized by religious zealots.

I happen to believe, but I sure as hell don't feel like wearing my faith on my sleeve.
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Old 04-24-2008, 12:02 PM
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4/19/2008

Tallahassee, Florida. -The specialty plates would feature a cross over a stained-glass window. The words "I Believe" would be at the bottom of the plate. Floridians would pay an extra $25 for the plate. The money would go to a nonprofit group in Orlando called "Faith in Teaching" to support faith-based education.

Rest of story: license plate proposed in Florida (OneNewsNow.com)


Commentary: Far out…

Don’t those of you living below the bible belt just love it here?
The “NOW cows” tried for years to get rid of our “Chose Life” plates and even attempted to get there own saying “Support Choice”. They couldn’t get enough signatures.
Now moonbats have something else to keep them busy for a while.
So what? Indiana has "In God We Trust" license plates. Why do you give a rat's behind what someone has on his or her license plate?
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:21 PM
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Because it's breathtakingly stupid and a state endorsement of religion?
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I happen to believe, but I sure as hell don't feel like wearing my faith on my sleeve.
All the stickers, fish-things and whatnot does seem a tad insecure, doesn't it?

What, you need to remind yourself?

(For the record, I find the blatant overadvertising of gayness equally idiotic.)
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This is clearly unconstitutional as is publicly-financed, faith-based education. The only way around it would be to make license plates available with the symbols of ANY religion, not just one.
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This is clearly unconstitutional as is publicly-financed, faith-based education. The only way around it would be to make license plates available with the symbols of ANY religion, not just one.
You have to remember that it is based on the state constitution and not the actual constitution. The constitution only prevents the federal government from doing something like this, but state governments have a lot more power and control.
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Because it's breathtakingly stupid and a state endorsement of religion?
Well, it may certainly be stupid but merely putting some words on a license plate isn't necessarily an endorsement of religion. I strongly suggest you look into what has been called "ceremonial deism" before you continue to make a fool of yourself with such damned idiotic remarks.

"I believe" could refer to anything: "I believe" in God or Buddah or Vishnu or Confucius or Einstein or Darwin or government...or "I believe" I'll have another beer.

Oh, and by the way, the first amendment only prohibits Congress from passing legislation that establishes a religion or infringes on the free exercise of religion. It does not apply to anyone else and the 14th amendment does not take the first amendment and expand its application to state and local governments. And before you make some damned idiotic remark about how "the Supreme Court said..." Article III doesn't give the Supreme Court the authority to assign its own meaning to the Constitution and Supreme Court decisions can easily be overturned by subsequent decisions (as has happened in the past).

The disappointing thing about this proposed license plate is that state won't be keeping the money for itself. States are always complaining about needing more revenue, here's a good way to add to the state coffers.

People should be allowed to have whatever they want on their license plate as long as it is the right amount of letters and numbers and the people themselves are willing to pay extra to have it done.
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"I believe" could refer to anything: "I believe" in God or Buddah or Vishnu or Confucius or Einstein or Darwin or government...or "I believe" I'll have another beer.
It would be a hoot if a Satan worshiper put one of those "I believe" tags on his car.
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Well, it may certainly be stupid but merely putting some words on a license plate isn't necessarily an endorsement of religion. I strongly suggest you look into what has been called "ceremonial deism" before you continue to make a fool of yourself with such damned idiotic remarks.

"I believe" could refer to anything: "I believe" in God or Buddah or Vishnu or Confucius or Einstein or Darwin or government...or "I believe" I'll have another beer.
Oh, cut the ****. Seriously.
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This is clearly unconstitutional as is publicly-financed, faith-based education. The only way around it would be to make license plates available with the symbols of ANY religion, not just one.
But is it really? You are paying extra out of your own pocket for the plate, which is what makes me wonder.
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