I don't know of any scientist claiming the debate is "over." In fact, all of them seem to know that a lot of work remains to be done. It's harder than simply saying "god did it," which is what the lazier among us seem to be proposing. It's as if they are saying, "scientists, the answer is already known, god did it, case closed." It's the numb-skull IDers who are calling the debate over. Scientists simply dismiss ID because of its gross absurdity. If you mean that the debate over ID is over, yes, it is, in the minds of thinking, rational people.

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God did it. No reason to look into it further.

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Yeah--and it accomplishes that process by copying proteins. You obviously never took biology.

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A process one can also observe in clay in that the crystals are replicated along the same lines as proteins. Not as impressive in an inanimate object, huh IDers? Heck, scientists at SUNY-Stony Brook have made a virus from scratch. They're gettin' mighty close to "playin' God." Which, if & when they succeed at creating a life form from scratch, will cause that cosmic Cheshire cat's smile to fade a bit more. . . .

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That's why most educated people lean left and agnostic and most uneducated people lean right and believe the Bible was written by God.

Mlurp is one of those sensible Christians who understands that his religion is for Sunday in church and it doesn't fit in the classroom. Or he's afraid of the debate, one or the other. One thing for sure though, if he believes in the big bang he doesn't believe that God created the universe. Christians who compromise with the big bang theory are certainly destined to burn in hell's fires.

For science it remains a theory, for compromising Christians it has become a certainty. Funny how readily they accept science's theories isn't it!

If you believe in the Big Bang, there is no reason to believe that God did not create the universe. I don't care if you believe that God created the universe, as long as you accept science.

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yes, but only those with an atheist agenda would call it fairy-tales and then consider the question answered.

Bobby did you read any of this thread? Because it is the "scientists" here that are claiming the debate is over.

Are you refering to master's level or something lower? So how did the first molecule form- by chance?