To my knowledge, there are no scientists posting in this thread. I probably come the closest, though I make my living as an archaeologist & historian. There is no debate as to origins, as no one knows for sure. Seems you might be debating that point all on your own.

As for evolution, that's settled science. Surely you know this.

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A blind watchmaker.

You make the assumption of assuming a first cause.

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There never was any debate in the minds of rational, sentient beings. Theology & evolution are apples & oranges. Is your name Onan, perchance?

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Your humor is stupid. There is no atheist agenda.
I'm not saying debate is over. I'm saying there was never a debate.
You didn't take high school biology, did you? Why not just admit it and be done with it?

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Thirty-three sayin nothin, second thirty-three just frontin', third thirty-three straight bluffin, Ice Tea sayin do somethin! Tupac sayin do somethin! NWA says do somethin! Zulu Nation sayin' c'mon, do somethin! Visionaries sayin do somethin!

The Southern Man suggests that if you insist on attacking your fellow posters with condescension that you at least know what it is that you speak. In this case High School biology, chemistry and biochemistry are prerequisites for college introductory courses in environmental engineering, which is a prerequisite for water chemistry, which is a prerequisite for environmental biology, which is a perquisite for biological wastewater treatment.

So can I ask if any have shown that evolotion is more than theory? It is kind of hard to follow with certain posts that are not informing and of little importance to the thread. I don't like the idea my great, great, great, great and on and on great was an ape. But I do know that life took longer than six days. And if the great long ago was an ape. I know we each ar ebetter that that today.
Maybe the Matrix is true and nothing is. But just in the mind of each tapped into it.

I would like to see links to support ideas, that would help me a lot. Eleven pages and all I thought I was doing was posting a news release on a movie.

Thanks to all who have posted so far. Now can I get some links, please.

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Why do you want links?

In the meantime.

Read this - http://www.unm.edu/%7Egfmiller/cours...psychology.doc

It's a Word document but it won't blow your computer up. It's a course syllabus. This is the lecturer - Geoffrey Miller

Why do I post these?

Simply to show you that the theory of evolution is not just accepted, it's driving current research. It's not a guess at something, it's a well tested framework which has stood up over time to any amount of prodding and poking.

From Dr Miller's syllabus note to the course I linked:

Those who want to insist that the IDers are correct and the world scientific community is wrong are free to keep insisting. But they shouldn't be surprised if they're not taken seriously by everyone else.

All that book-learnin' but not a shred of common-sense to be found. Amazing.

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All the evidence in the world will not convince you that evolution is a fact. Heck, you can watch it occur in a petri dish if you change the environment of the petri dish. You can see it in the differences in superficial features of humans around the world. You can see it in Darwin's finches in the Galapagos. It's common-sensical & no one needs to provide any links to prove it. You either have common sense or you don't.

As for your ancestor being an ape, calm down. You are an ape. There are five apes currently living on the earth--orangs, gibbons, gorillas, chimps, & humans. We're all part of the Superfamily Hominoidea. And no, you weren't descended from one of the other four great apes. Rather, you were descended from a common ancestor. Both the archaeological & genetic evidence proves this out. I don't need to provide you any links----simply Google anything I've posted here & you'll have well over 1 million links to demonstrate these facts. But again, if you lack common sense, you'll never see it. Sometimes religiosity gets in the way of common sense, so good luck to you.

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