Ben Stein Vs. Sputtering Atheists - Page 10 - Political Fever

Southern Man · #91 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Ingersoll

A process one can also observe in clay in that the crystals are replicated along the same lines as proteins. Not as impressive in an inanimate object, huh IDers? Heck, scientists at SUNY-Stony Brook have made a virus from scratch. They're gettin' mighty close to "playin' God." Which, if & when they succeed at creating a life form from scratch, will cause that cosmic Cheshire cat's smile to fade a bit more. . . .

Who made the scientists?

Southern Man · #92 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

That's why most educated people lean left and agnostic and most uneducated people lean right and believe the Bible was written by God.

Source?

Zephyr · #93 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 08:43 PM

Nice triple post.

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yes, but only those with an atheist agenda would call it fairy-tales and then consider the question answered.

"An atheist agenda?"

You're joking, right? This isn't politics we are talking about here. Atheism and Evolution have nothing to do with an agenda, and everything to do with science and "factual information."

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Bobby did you read any of this thread? Because it is the "scientists" here that are claiming the debate is over.

There was never any debate between Creationism and Evolution. Evolution is a fact, period.

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Are you refering to master's level or something lower?

High school biology should have gone over it, but obviously you never took that class.

UShaditComing · #94 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephyr

If you believe in the Big Bang, there is no reason to believe that God did not create the universe. I don't care if you believe that God created the universe, as long as you accept science.

No, not true at all but I don't think we need to get into it in that sort of depth. Suffice to say that religion needs to borrow from science to reconcile it's superstitious beliefs. You Christians now seem to want to discard the bible stories and how the sky fairy created the earth etc. in X number of days depending on what brand of religion you buy.

Southern Man · #95 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephyr

Nice triple post.

[1]"An atheist agenda?"

You're joking, right? This isn't politics we are talking about here. Atheism and Evolution have nothing to do with an agenda, and everything to do with science and "factual information."

[2]There was never any debate between Creationism and Evolution. Evolution is a fact, period.

[3]High school biology should have gone over it, but obviously you never took that class.

1. You missed the humor completely. Do you want to read back to who I quoted or would you prefer to have it explained it to you?
2. Thanks for making my point for me.
3. How’s a master’s program in environmental engineering sound? That’s where we learn to make little bug-like thingies happy, so they make poop and other stuff dissolved in liquids into solid particles so we can then make the liquids nice again.

diuretic · #96 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

Bobby did you read any of this thread? Because it is the "scientists" here that are claiming the debate is over.

Inasmuch as ID isn't science and therefore isn't in the scientific arena, yes, that debate is over. ID'ers are free to indulge their metaphysics in the appropriate arena - theology.

Southern Man · #97 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by diuretic

Inasmuch as ID isn't science and therefore isn't in the scientific arena, yes, that debate is over. ID'ers are free to indulge their metaphysics in the appropriate arena - theology.

Thank you as well for making my earlier point- that it is the so-called "scientists" who are claiming that the debate is over.

mlurp · #98 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UShaditComing

Ahhhh wonderful! Stein wants to get mainstream religion behind the ID cause. He'll get a real licking on this and anyone who has taken the time to read up on ID and study what happened to them in the lawsuit against the Dover schoolboard will know that. Mainstream religion better speak up in a hurry or they will be accused with guilt by association with the IDers.

This is going to be a massacre of the IDers and could maybe put them out of their misery completely. Let's hope so.

Now let's get it on!

I thought that would end it too. Now 10 pages later we haven't heard it all yet.. lol

diuretic · #99 (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

Thank you as well for making my earlier point- that it is the so-called "scientists" who are claiming that the debate is over.

Which so-called scientists would they be? And in any case you probably already know that the court in Kitzmiller decided that ID is theology and not science. The debate may be raging between your ears as to whether or not ID is science but for teh outside world it's over.

Robert Ingersoll · #**100** (**permalink**) 04-30-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

yes, but only those with an atheist agenda would call it fairy-tales and then consider the question answered.

I'm no atheist & have no such agenda. But, it's easy for any rational, sentient being to readily understand that the first two chapters of Genesis are no more real that Little Red Riding Hood or the Three Little Pigs.

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