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Yet your OP is linkless.
It was a reprint from a yahoo group, without a link...sue me. Geez.
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It was a reprint from a yahoo group, without a link...sue me. Geez.
A yahoo group? That should be credible. Cut and paste is one way to do it.

This is the very reason that you should supply a link.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:37 AM
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You are the biggest thread hijacker on this board. Here: Cenk Uygur: Different Standards for Black and White Preachers - Politics on The Huffington Post
Can you stop taking this thread off topic now?
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:54 AM
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[quote=aaronssongs;73699]By Cenk Uygur, Huffington Post Posted on March 19, 2008, Printed on March 20, 2008\



Different Standards for Black and White Preachers





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What separates all of these outrageous preachers from Barack Obama's?

You guessed it. They're white and Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not. If it's not racism that's causing the disparity in media treatment of these preachers, then what is it?
Racism abounds in all religions. No secret there. Is there a disparity in media treatment? I don't see it. For every white preacher of hate there is an equal black preacher of hate. To bad we can't send them all to an isolated island and let them die nipping one anothers heels.


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I'm willing to listen to other possible explanations. And I am inclined to believe that the people these preachers go after are more important than the race of the preacher. It's one thing to go after gays, liberals and Muslims - that seems to be perfectly acceptable in America - it's another to accuse white folks of not living up to their ideals.
And yes, there are handful of lackies to be found in every race that will support the radical ideas of these hateful preachers.


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think there is another factor at play as well. The media is deathly afraid of calling out preachers of any stripe for insane propaganda from the pulpits for fear that they will be labeled as anti-Christian. But criticism of Rev. Wright falls into their comfort zone. It's easy to blame him for being anti-American because he criticizes American foreign and domestic policy
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They had no problem calling out Falwell or Trent Lott or condemin the RNC for not allowing gays into their conventions. But the Republican wing is racist, no getting around that. And they were outraged at hecklers in Congress recently when muslim led the prayer. I think he was mideastern decent.


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If Rev. Wright had preached about discriminating against gay Americans or Muslims, there probably would not have been any outcry at all. That falls into the category of "respect their hateful opinions because they cloak themselves in the church."

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But one thing is indisputable - the enormous disparity in how the media has covered these white preachers as opposed to Rev. Wright. Have you ever even heard of Rod Parsley? As you can see from what I listed above, all of these white preachers have said and done the most outlandish and offensive things you can imagine - and hardly a peep.
I am not sure what you call a peep, but I do feel the media covers the news fairly. Does congress or the legal system? NO!

There was a peep about Jim Jones, Jimmy Baker, Faye Baker, Swaggart, Lott, Falwell, etc. There are more, while I can see their faces, I can't think of their white names.

And there is Black farikan that mentioned killing all the white Devils, and more in his religious speeches. His equal is David Duke, and even the RNC held out a poll to keep him from running for congress not long ago. I think he is in florida as I recall. Hateful racist.

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If the disparity in coverage isn't racist, then what is it?
Like FOX VIEWS says, we are balanced reporters. ha ha. It will take time to remove racism to a point where we find another boogyman prejudice of humans to concentrate on. Intelligence maybe next superior stance.
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McCain's "spiritual advisor" is a raving anti Islam fanatic. McCain is in process of getting a total pass on this being an issue. So if we are talking about a Black guy with a Muslim name its his bad if his spiritual advisor sounds like a fanatic, but if it is a (very) white guy with a Scottish name it isn't his bad if his spiritual advisor is a fanatic.

So tell me what I'm missing here if I call this a blatant double standard due to racism?

Did you see that white preacher on TV repeating "Barrack Hussein Obama" over and over and over and over, the meaning of which was probably "how dare you run for president?" And if the African slaves brought to this country had kept their original African names, we would most likely have many African Americans now with either Muslim names or tribal names.

What would be wrong with a very simple mental adjustment on the part of Whites? Like it or not, our multcultural reality is here to stay.
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FYI:

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The url address link and not posting full articles is a legal requirement to keep the discussion board out of trouble.
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This is interesting. Very interesting.
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McCain's "spiritual advisor" is a raving anti Islam fanatic. McCain is in process of getting a total pass on this being an issue. So if we are talking about a Black guy with a Muslim name its his bad if his spiritual advisor sounds like a fanatic, but if it is a (very) white guy with a Scottish name it isn't his bad if his spiritual advisor is a fanatic.

So tell me what I'm missing here if I call this a blatant double standard due to racism?

Did you see that white preacher on TV repeating "Barrack Hussein Obama" over and over and over and over, the meaning of which was probably "how dare you run for president?" And if the African slaves brought to this country had kept their original African names, we would most likely have many African Americans now with either Muslim names or tribal names.

What would be wrong with a very simple mental adjustment on the part of Whites? Like it or not, our multcultural reality is here to stay.






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While the focus in on "race," "gay" and the candidates pastors and
ministers are not being talked about much in the mainstream media. I
had posted this McCain story earlier, about Dan Yeary, the Arizona,
Southern Baptist Convention affiliated pastor that McCain is most
close to, despite being officially an Episcopalian.

One sharp contrast, aside from Wright's fiery vs Yeary's folksy
alleged styles, is "gay." Yeary uses "homosexual" in an
condescendingly offensive way and abuses scripture to legitimate his
prejudices...and Hagee and Parsley don't even try for condescendingly
folksy.

Wright's denomination has a history of civil rights activism, and the
Southern Baptist Convention...well...how to put it in some
condescendingly folksy manner?

UCC 'Firsts'

Oh...something's peculating in the back of my viscous and vicious
little mind...Billy Graham's pastor, W. A. Criswell, which Graham had
to distance himself from in much the same manner as Obama, only 52
years earlier, if Graham wanted to continue to attract non-SBC
religious leader support for his "crusades," as well as access to even
semi-moderate politicians from outside the South. Of course, if you
substitute Gay for integration...you pretty much have the modern
anti-gay position.

http://jsr.fsu.edu/Volume10/Freeman.pdf

"...Criswell segued into a heated attack on the forces of
desegregation. He expressed astonishment at the cowardice of ministers
"whose forebears [sic] and predecessors were martyrs and were burned
at the stake" but who themselves refuse to speak up about "this thing
of integration."

True ministers, he argued, must passionately resist government
mandated desegregation because it is "a denial of all that we believe
in." This rhetorical move portrayed Southern Baptists as the de facto
established church of the South and gave the ministers the privilege
to speak for all white southerners. He denounced as "foolishness" and
"idiocy" the recent ruling of the Supreme Court that was meant to ram
integration down the collective throat of the South. Irritated with
the carpet bagging supporters of civil rights, he exclaimed: "Let them
integrate. Let them sit up there in their dirty shirts and make all
their fine speeches. But they are all a bunch of infidels, dying from
the neck up."...

...The most famous member of First Baptist Church of Dallas, Billy
Graham, was quick to distance himself from Criswell's remarks, telling
reporters: "My Pastor and I have never seen eye to eye on the race
question."...

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And an influential SBC media director's fairly responsible, I think,
response to the above article...which doesn't mean that he learned
anything, though, about a broader civil rights lesson.
MatthewHall.net W.A. Criswell, Civil Rights, and Southern Religion

(The Second Baptist Church of Houston, no relation to Criswell's First
in Dallas, was, if memory serves, once accused by the journalist Grace
Halsell of funding anti-Islamic terrorists who were trying to blow up
the famous cultural and religious masterpiece, Kubbat as-Sakhrain (the
Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem). I think it was in
"Prophecy and Politics: Militant Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War.")
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