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Old 03-22-2008, 11:22 AM
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~Snip~ We know that trees don’t release oxygen at a constant, yet you can go anywhere in the world and observe oxygen constant at ~21%.
go to the tallest mautain and tell me that there is as much oxygen there as down here
The phenomenon in fact is used in formulas as a constant in providing passenger aircraft with 15 or more ft3/min per passenger of outside air +/- what’s recycled to save fuel (I‘m a single engine private pilot.).

In short, @10,000 feet the oxygen quantity is 50% that of sea level but still consists of 21% concentration.
It’s pretty much the only constant occurring in nature as much as it being the only thing needing to be constant. If oxygen were random and we evolved from goo, are lungs would not be what we have today.
they aint, if it was then there wouldnt be anything called blood doping
Faster delivery system, again it’s the quantity and not the concentration. At 30% you will begin to lose your eyesight and get light headed.

All beings would have had to of evolved with there always being 21% oxygen.
That just couldn't happen with so many random occurrences need in Darwinian theory’s.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:53 AM
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I'm afraid of Christians.

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Yes, I'm very afraid of Christians.
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Faster delivery system, again it’s the quantity and not the concentration. At 30% you will begin to lose your eyesight and get light headed.
Because humans are evolved for an approximate 21% concentration of oxygen. Your point?

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All beings would have had to of evolved with there always being 21% oxygen. That just couldn't happen with so many random occurrences need in Darwinian theory’s.
Then you obviously don't understand evolution. The Earth, in the past 1.5 billion years, has had an oxygen concentration between 15% and 30%, varying because of various biological, chemical, and geological processes. At this epoch of history, it's 21%. That's where the various factors reach equilibrium.

You have yet to really refute any part of evolutionary theory. You're just going around saying, "but it cudnt hapen like that becuz it cudnt." Have you ever taken a highschool science course? If so, did you pass? Did you pass without cheating? If so, I'd like to have words with your teacher for doing a ****ty job.
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Lets not forget my all time favorites, “coffee and cigarettes.”
You know, for that thing inside our own device.
That was completely random and has no relevance to what I said.

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There are no other constants occurring that would result in such a thing. A random universe wouldn’t even have constant physical laws to have formed in the first place, it would be a real b_tch. Yesterdays tomorrows and today’s last years while up and down occur at the same time and sh_t.
Uhm... no. You're taking the "random" concept beyond what it's defined as. Nice try with the rhetoric, though.

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Are you looking at what your saying while remembering there’s no direction for it to know how to do this or even that it needs to?
Uh, yeah. Just because there's no intelligent being or man in the sky directing it doesn't mean that it is completely random. Random occurrences happening within a set of universal laws. Why are those the way they are? Hell if I know. Ask your god or ask Mr. Hawking, doesn't matter to me. That's not what we're debating.

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Whats not to get, anyone can make up a theory and prove it.

Lets see, I propose that photons are a byproduct of light and not light itself.
Hey, a few grants and a life’s work...
Wrong. That's not a theory, that's a hypothesis. A hypothesis is a proposed idea for why something is the way it is. What you do next is go and test your hypothesis to see if it holds up under experimentation. Hell, maybe see if you can get yourself 30 minutes of time at the Fermi Collider. It's an interesting hypothesis.

A theory is something that's been at least partly proven and established. Evolution is fully proven. The Big Bang is partly proven. Relativity is fully proven. Quantum Mechanics is fully proven. Intelligent Design is not.
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who have I now offented
No intent to offend you. People in other countries do that too but the Americans do it more than other countries. IMO it's very similar to being carried along in a spell by a dictator but even worse because it's worship of a god which doesn't exist.
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No intent to offend you. People in other countries do that too but the Americans do it more than other countries. IMO it's very similar to being carried along in a spell by a dictator but even worse because it's worship of a god which doesn't exist.
I am still confused
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If you want to support the notion of intelligent design then you have been terribly misled on what it's all about. Trust me, you don't want to go there. It was never properly thought out and it causes more problems for Christians than it's worth.
Then this should be easy for you.
Let me ask you, do you have a television on your computer center?
Good. Turn it to a station not used and then adjust the contrast to black, wait for it -wait for it -there, see that tiny flash fly by? That’s it!!! The only evidence the big bang theory is based on, the rest is construed by Nam era moonbats.

“Not properly thought out,” give us a break.
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~Snip~ I’d like to discuss the certainty of how Darwinist believe things like, “how mother nature knew there were smells so she could design us a nose” and sh_t.
uhhh, im not sure what you're talking about. You need to make a coherent topic question.
Well gee grouch (Can I call you grouch?). Were already going on this one but tell you what, why don’t you take out your crayons and color or something and keep checking in until there’s a thread with pictures.
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Reminder about rule #2 and putdowns. I'm sure people aren't here on their free time to bicker. Try the "Ignore List" option.
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