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Old 03-13-2008, 02:36 PM
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Hamas MP Fathi Hammad making yet another plea for the palestinians to martyr themselves. What a fun bunch. Here, he admits and seems to condone using women and children as human shields.

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Old 03-13-2008, 02:40 PM
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Hamas MP Fathi Hammad making yet another plea for the palestinians to martyr themselves. What a fun bunch. Here, he admits and seems to condone using women and children as human shields.

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I'm a little sceptical of the translation but even if it is right then it's nothing that the Irsaelis don't also do, the Israelis use Gazans as human shields also.
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:12 PM
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Did you want to post an opinion or something that we could talk about?

Fathi Hamad is a radical bigot. He doesn't sit on the council for any town and was elected into parliament only because of his place on the party list. Needless to say the current unity government doesn't support his message or him for that matter. He even spent a year in Palestinian jail for his preachings.

He is currently the director of a local Hamas owned TV station in the Gaza which is why he is capable of expressing these views. His opinions are quite radical and certainly not mainstream, in fact he has often criticized mainstream Muslims and all other Arabs for not being radical enough or militaristic enough.

The guy is a racist bigot and he preaches a grossly inhumane message. What's your point? What is it that you wanted to discuss?
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Fathi Hamad is way off the mark. Muslims do not desire death, we just don't fear it as much. Expressing a desire for death is not a clever thing to do in that part of the world. He may just get his wish.
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Do people here want to talk about the larger issue of Israel aggressively kicking Muslims off of their land to make way for Jewish settlers? We have had several threads on Palestine. Are we getting Palestine discussion fatigue?
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I'm a little sceptical of the translation but even if it is right then it's nothing that the Irsaelis don't also do, the Israelis use Gazans as human shields also.
You're skeptical because you want to be. You know it is the truth. If not, your TV is broke. Jews never use women and children to fight their battles. Especially in the form of murdering innocents in cafes by wearing bombs on their bodies, killing themselves and as many as they can take with them. They don't lie to their warriors that in death they will receive slaves to tend to their desires because of their selfless act of not only killing themselves but stealing the lives of whomever happens to be unfortunate enough to be within range of their stupidity.
You pulled the accusation of using Gazans as shields out of your imagination.
They do however kill innocents in their retaliatory attacks as the people who fire rockets into Israel set up operations among the populace with full knowledge that retaliation will likely take innocents. The evil that is radical Islam at it's best. And "you" are skeptical. lol

By the way, after I wrote this I saw the video of the Jew soldiers pushing the young man ahead of them to doors. I saw no harm come to the young man.
I also saw a young girl "speaking about being threatened by Jew soldiers to check doors". she seemed exceptionally healthy. I saw no bodies. I saw no acts of violence. In comparison, it seems quite a triviality. But, of course it must surely be a point of despair for a people trained to sacrifice themselves for what?????? Betterment of their own people? Or the destruction of another?
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Israel--what a peaceful country!

That's all you can say, huh? That Israel is perfect and fighting against evil?

I've heard it all before. I've been accused of being an anti-Semite because I disagree with a lot of what Israel does.
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