Hang on a second, are you really trying to justify the use of human shields by Israeli soldiers and the use of an 11 year old girl as a human shield with the fact that these two didn't happen to be harmed while they were being used as shields?

Do you really think that makes a difference? Why do you think that the Soldiers decided to use shields in the first place? And for your information Arabs have been killed and injured while being used as human shields by Israeli soldiers.

Israeli soldiers have commited many abuses and crimes and they admit it themselves:

Breaking The Silence - Israeli soldiers talk about the occupied territories

Breaking the silence is a group that gathers testimonies by Israeli soldiers who have either witnessed atrocities or have committed them against Palestinians.

What Israel does is quite irrelevant. When surrounded by Arabs that have each at one time attacked with the intent of killing Jews and removing Israel from the planet, they have the right to fire on anyone who steps toward them with malice. Of course they are not perfect, they have never purported to be so. Nor have I suggested so. But survival is the instinct of men. either a curse or a blessing. But, it is real. Constant ramblings by Muslims on destroying anyone who is not Muslim should cause all non-Muslim nations to prepare for the war approaching.

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Once again you try to support by minimizing the message with rationalizations. No matter how damning the evidence you seem to make excuse for it. You truly are partisan and blind to the danger these radicals pose.

I think you just said it all. Don't marginalize the damage this guy can do or the numbers who follow his message of hate.

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Says the man who completely disregards public opinion polls in Gaza and the West Bank and who has ignored, time and again the platform that Hamas has had to run on in order to be elected.

I am the one who is blind? His speech has nothing to do with what got Hamas elected. We was thrown in jail before by the Palestinians and was not directly elected into office.

Do you think that Israel lacks radicals in its government? How about Avigdor Lieberman?


The problem with what you are saying though is that not as many follow him as you seem to think. Public opinion is against the Hamas takeover of Gaza and is for a peaceful two state solution and reconsiliation with Israel.

Doesn't the fact that the guy has to criticize the rest of the Muslim world and criticize them all and the Palestinians for abandoning him hint at the fact that he isn't very widely supported?

Public opinion polls? Hamas is a terrorist organization and getting elected to lead Palestine does not change, but in fact, exacerbates the situation over there.

You act as if people like him are the exception in the Middle East. They are not. They are legion. And thaey are supported by the majority in the Muslim World.

Well at least you didn't bring up Ben again. Thanks. Funny how how three Arab invasions and countess suicide and other terror attacks makes you a radical. What's up with that?

Great. While the Palestinian people are busy expressing their public opinion the terrorists continue to attack and kill Israelis.

Once again for the hearing impaired, acts speak louder than words. Abandoning him does not stop the Palestinian violence.

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What evidence are you basing this on?

Funny how Israeli invasions, ethnic clensing and gross human rights abuses along with western colonialism makes you a radical isn't it? That doesn't excuse their behavior though, for either side. So quick to point fingers everywhere but at Israel. It is possible for situations to be something other than black and white.


And they have suffered politically for it. All of a suden Abbas and the unity govenrment seems more like a unifying force and more of a force that can deal politically with Israel than Hamas can.



Exactly, and most Muslims as well as most Palestinians are not violent radicals. Acts speak louder than words.