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Old 12-18-2007, 10:16 PM
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Because they're just godless pagans. Duh.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:21 PM
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No, because that not they work station,
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:41 PM
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I have had several angelic experiences, too and they weren't near death experiences. I was healthy and awake when each one happened so I guess I'm the other crazy old lady of this forum (although I'm not really crazy, just different.):wacko:

Maybe people in India don't see the same angels because people will see what they have been culturally-conditioned to see when a being of energy appears.
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:09 AM
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I've often contemplated the physics of what an afterlife would be like. We can clearly see that the bodies of the dead don't magically rise up when we turn our backs and become animate again. So, if any sort of rebirth in THIS world is to happen, it would involve some sort of ethereal spirit. Exactly how any of this would work - I'm not sure, but I personally think that some people go to great lengths to try and prove ghosts or spirits (they HAVE to exist, right?) when in reality, there isn't much evidence to suggest their presence.

Am I saying that I KNOW there aren't ghosts? Nah - I couldn't know that until I'm dead. But I've seen plenty of wonderful ESP providers, hooking people up with their loved ones beyond the grave.... such as this gem: Beyond the Grave!
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:24 PM
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I've often contemplated the physics of what an afterlife would be like. We can clearly see that the bodies of the dead don't magically rise up when we turn our backs and become animate again. So, if any sort of rebirth in THIS world is to happen, it would involve some sort of ethereal spirit. Exactly how any of this would work - I'm not sure, but I personally think that some people go to great lengths to try and prove ghosts or spirits (they HAVE to exist, right?) when in reality, there isn't much evidence to suggest their presence.

Am I saying that I KNOW there aren't ghosts? Nah - I couldn't know that until I'm dead. But I've seen plenty of wonderful ESP providers, hooking people up with their loved ones beyond the grave.... such as this gem: Beyond the Grave!
See, that's something I always ask people--what are ghosts made of? If anything, I get some vague response about "energy." I then inquire, "Kinetic? Potential? Caloric? What kind of energy?" Of course, then they break off the conversation, and try to either change topic or blatantly say my line of questioning is making them uncomfortable.

Of course it makes them uncomfortable. For a lot of people, the thought of ceasing to exist entirely and utterly upon death is just too damn scary. But which is better--deluding yourself to make you feel better, or accepting the truth like a grown-up?
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:35 PM
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Does it scare you that there might not be a heaven or hell to go to. But just dirt and worms eating your body, and you never more?
No.

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What a sad thought.
It is not my place to judge the universe or life within it.

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I wonder how on earth you can go through life with out any hope, no wonder you think in the dark way you do.
How does dismissing irrational superstition constitute "going through life with out any hope"??? That is just plain silly.

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I feel very sad and try to hope for you to.
Okay. You are sad. That's nice. Perhaps you might get over it some day.

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I hope and pray that there is a heaven to see my dad. I love my dad more than anything on earth. God bless that man. I hope to see him one day.
That's nice. Nothing is stopping you from believing this. Indeed, I shall defend to the death your right to believe this so.

But when you accuse me of being hopeless and you shove your pity in my face, that's when you become my enemy and I will fight to the death to help you see your father very soon.

Big difference between those two statements. Your choice.
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Does it scare you that there might not be a heaven or hell to go to. But just dirt and worms eating your body, and you never more? What a sad thought. I wonder how on earth you can go through life with out any hope, no wonder you think in the dark way you do. I feel very sad and try to hope for you to.

I hope and pray that there is a heaven to see my dad. I love my dad more than anything on earth. God bless that man. I hope to see him one day.
There IS a heaven, but if you want to get there, then you better start doing more than HOPING that it exists.
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:23 PM
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There IS a heaven, but if you want to get there, then you better start doing more than HOPING that it exists.
What makes you so sure?
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