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Old 12-05-2007, 12:29 PM
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What do you people think of the Pledge? Is it accurate? Could it be changed? Should it be changed?

Whenever I say that pledge of allegiance I leave out "Under God" and say "Liberty and justice for most" at the end

I believe that I am pledging my allegiance to a country, not a God of one religion and that not all people get the same justice
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Old 12-05-2007, 12:35 PM
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I agree.

Of course, "under God" is NOT part of the original Pledge, and was added in the 1950s as a response to the Red Menace scare (communism).

It doesn't belong there - an atheist, agnostic, polytheist, etc. should have no problem pledging loyalty to his country without having to amend the oath.
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Old 12-05-2007, 12:47 PM
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You're absolutely right, it was added later to the Pledge.

And, even as the resident Catholic, I don't care if it's removed from the Pledge.
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Well, LOL, I'm a Christian convert (raised Jewish) and I think it SHOULD be removed.
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As the resident "Born and rasied but now questioning" Catholic, I'm fine with "Under God" being taken off. Sure, every evangelist (...*shudder*) would throw a fit, but the nation as a whole wouldn't really care.
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I am not american, but I think it should be removed for the simple fact that a pledge of allegiance is to a country, not a specific monotheist diety
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You mean people still actually say the Pledge ?? I'm glad to hear it...don't care if they say it with or without, just so they say it !
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We get it recited to us in school. Nobody ever says it though, and no one puts his hand over his heart.

I don't care if under god is removed or not, it isn't that big a deal.
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We get it recited to us in school. Nobody ever says it though, and no one puts his hand over his heart.

I don't care if under god is removed or not, it isn't that big a deal.
REALLY?! We recite it in school too, like all American schools I know of, but I'm surprised at your school.
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REALLY?! We recite it in school too, like all American schools I know of, but I'm surprised at your school.
We have to stand up (even though no one does) and we're supposed to say it (even though no one does) while the vice principal says it over the loudspeakers. Then we hear the announcements.

My town is really liberal, if that's what you mean. A regular godless hell-hole.
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