I refuse to say the pledge. I do not agree with the way this country is rigth now, and i do not agree with where it is going. I think that it should be re-written, with "Under God" taken out. I think that is it was to be re-written it should be something like this:

"I pledge alliegence
to the people
of the Untited States of America
and to the democracy
for which we stand
one nation
with equality, liberty, and justice for all."

We aren't a democracy, though, we're a republic.

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

In case you were curious, the part about "Under God" was added in the 1950's for political or ideological motives. It is not original to the Pledge.

As for the institution of the Pledge itself, I abhor it - it reaks of Stalinism or Big Brother or Orwellian 'groupthink' or even militant nationalism. None of these are admirable things to aspire to.

true we arent a democracy, but we should be lol

Republic is a more organized form of government. I like it just fine.

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Simply because it says "God".
I don't feel that in order to pledge allegiance to this nation you must pledge it to god as well.

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WELL AMERICANS, WHAT?
NOTHIN BETTER TO DO?
WHY DON'T YOU KICK YOURSELF OUT?
YOU'RE AN IMMIGRANT TOO.

A democracy can never ever work. It is no better then a mob controling everything, and you say you want justice? Give me a ****************ing break.

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"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.


"If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity; it must be known, that we are at all times ready for war" -- George Washington, Fifth Annual Address to Congress, December 13, 1793

I agree, there's a bit of *gesture toward avatar*

.....but what you gotta realize that there has to be some sort of pledge, because we do want people to be loyal to the country, no? And all countries ask for loyalty, right? And the Pledge has changed occasionally with the times, and it wouldn't be a problem if it changed back right now, really.

And what is a nation, in theory, other than a group of people united for a common cause? So, in this theory, we should be able to pledge our allegiance, as I have said, not to a flag, but to a theory, to an idea, to ourselves as a whole!

if you agree with what I have said, there's a new feature on Political Fever that allows you to express agreement. look in the top right-hand corner of my post, and you should see a little silver scales button. use that.

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steve

Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum!
NOTE: If you agree with what I have said in this post, there's a new feature on Political Fever that allows you to express agreement. Look in the top right-hand corner of my post, and you should see a little silver scales button. Please, use that.However, sign it with your username so I know who sent it please...thanks all.

America is Mob rule isnt it? your presidents are elected by a margen of 51 % and the other getting 49 %

No the president is elected by a electrol collage, which fairly spreads the amount of members to each state by number of people living in those states. So a liberal state like Califorina gets a lot of votes, which is fair, and a small state with little people in the heart land gets few. I say that is pretty fair.

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"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.


"If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity; it must be known, that we are at all times ready for war" -- George Washington, Fifth Annual Address to Congress, December 13, 1793