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Old 12-09-2007, 02:27 PM
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Then we dont you just Put Allah on it, since that also means God, then it shouldnt matter, right.

God, in the name which the Christian god is known by,
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:38 PM
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In "God we trust" could mean anyones god, not just Christianity.
Yes, but what about religions that worship many different gods?

The fact is that it was made to represent the Christian god, and still does. Muslims don't consider it their god.
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The fact is that it was made to represent the Christian god, and still does. Muslims don't consider it their god.
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I don't consider it my god! I believe in multiple gods, all of whom created different parts of the universe.
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btw what about people who believe in a Goddess?
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See why do we always have to do what the minority's want ? I never have understood that. Why not keep at least a few things like how they were? What real trouble is "in god we trust" causing?
Yeah, let's get rid of civil rights for blacks. They are just a minority, so why should we do what they want?

"In God We Trust" is a lie, because not all of us do. I sure as hell don't. It, and "under God" in the Pledge, were added in the 50's because the 50's were the time of us wishing we were all living in white bread suburban America with the Cleavers and the Whatever-Ozzie-and-Harriet's-Last-Name-Was-s, and the Commies were officially atheist, so what better to fight them with than the power of the God of Abraham & Jesus, who, according to some, even keeps a vacation house in Missouri!

I'm sure everyone's tune would be completely different if money said "God Doesn't Exist" on it, or even something like "Freedom of Religion means Freedom from Religion" or "Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law," the last two of which would actually be quite cumbersome to print on a dime.

You say "Why should we change it?" as though it would be so very difficult to do so, such a mess and headache. However, we seem to have had no trouble changing it to that just 50-some-odd years ago; why not do it again, and help promote equality of thought and belief for all Americans?
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See why do we always have to do what the minority's want ? I never have understood that. Why not keep at least a few things like how they were? What real trouble is "in god we trust" causing?
"In God We Trust" was not always on our money. The phrase itself violates the establishment clause of the first amendment. It should be removed along with all other such expressions that the Supreme Court referred to in 1963 as "ceremonial deism" (the term ceremonial deism was introduced in 1962 by Eugene Rostow, the dean of Yale Law School. He used the term to refer to practices that are "so conventional and uncontroversial as to be constitutional"), though just because they are "conventional and uncontroversial" does not make them constitutional.
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