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Old 07-08-2008, 08:20 PM
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Sorry, came in late. My response has pretty much been covered.
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:23 PM
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I doubt there are many wealthy (billionaire) libertarians. Most of the wealth acquired at that point is through unjustified protection through the state. There is a group of vocal libertarians who are a'okay with corporations, though (kof right-Rothbardians).
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:52 AM
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I doubt there are many wealthy (billionaire) libertarians. Most of the wealth acquired at that point is through unjustified protection through the state. There is a group of vocal libertarians who are a'okay with corporations, though (kof right-Rothbardians).

The only 'wealthy' libertarian I know is John Mackey who owns Whole Foods Market. Gotta love their stores. No Frankenfood there.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:02 AM
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Yes, we want our liberties, rights, freedoms, etc and do not think that anyone else should be able to take them. If that makes me greedy then oh well. I think I can live with myself. Although if you take into consideration that libertarians want other people to have those same rights I don't see how you could say their greedy.
It isn't that we want others to have them, we assert that they already do have them and that it is their responsibility to enforce them.
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It isn't that we want others to have them, we assert that they already do have them and that it is their responsibility to enforce them.
Well, in mind mind at least, I want people to be free to do what they want. I've never tried meth, for example, but if that is what someone wants to do, I damn sure don't want to stop them. That is an extreme example, but if others are free to do what they want then hopefully I'll be free to do what I want. I agree that we are born with certain rights, but as others, such as Oregon Elephant, have pointed out, my belief is really only a belief.

Anyhow, I wasn't trying to confuse anyone about the libertarian philosophy. I'm not even a registered libertarian. I just agree with them more than any other party. I guess I'd say I'm 3/4 indipendent 1/4 libertarian.
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