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Old 12-21-2007, 02:49 AM
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Full article i found is here explaining these results

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Democrats may now be the more intelligent party

Nixon/Ford/Carter Years 1974-1978

1: Democrat 48.0
830 41.4
614 32.7
349 41.9
1,793

2: Independent 33.1
572 36.7
544 39.3
419 35.9
1,535

3: Republican 18.9
326 22.0
326 28.0
299 22.2
951

COL TOTAL 100.0
1,728 100.0
1,484 100.0
1,067 100.0
4,279
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Reagan/Bush Sr. Years 1982-1991
1: Democrat 43.5
1,457 35.1
1,088 31.7
641 37.6
3,186

2: Independent 34.1
1,142 33.9
1,052 35.3
713 34.3
2,907

3: Republican 22.4
751 31.1
964 33.0
665 28.1
2,381
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Clinton Years 1993-1998
1: Democrat 38.5
838 33.1
760 32.3
469 34.9
2,067
2: Independent 36.8
802 36.3
832 36.1
524 36.4
2,158
3: Republican 24.7
538 30.6
701 31.6
459 28.7

George W. Bush Years 2004
1: Democrat 36.9
174 32.1
187 37.9
138 35.2
499

2: Independent 40.5
191 33.3
194 33.5
122 35.7
507

3: Republican 22.7
107 34.6
202 28.6
104 29.1
413
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This was a study of adaptability

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Are liberals smarter than conservatives?

It looks that way, according to a study published this week in Nature Neuroscience. In a rapid response test—you press a button if you're given one signal, but not if you're given a different signal—the authors found that conservatives were "more likely to make errors of commission," whereas "stronger liberalism was correlated with greater accuracy." They concluded that "a more conservative orientation is related to greater persistence in a habitual response pattern, despite signals that this response pattern should change."

Does this mean liberal brains are fitter? Apparently. "Liberals are more responsive to informational complexity, ambiguity and novelty," the authors wrote. New York University, which helped fund the study, concluded, "Liberals are more likely than are conservatives to respond to cues signaling the need to change habitual responses." The study's lead author, NYU professor David Amodio, told London's Daily Telegraph that "liberals tended to be more sensitive and responsive to information that might conflict with their habitual way of thinking."

Habitual way of thinking. Informational complexity. Need to change. Those are sweeping terms. They imply that conservatives, on average, are adaptively weaker at thinking, not just button-pushing. And that implication has permeated the press. The Los Angeles Times told readers that the study "suggests that liberals are more adaptable than conservatives" and "might be better judges of the facts." Agence France Presse reported that conservatives in the study "were less flexible, refusing to deviate from old habits 'despite signals that this ... should be changed.' " The Guardian asserted, "Scientists have found that the brains of people calling themselves liberals are more able to handle conflicting and unexpected information."
If you can find something that contradicts this, let me know. when i looked all i found was blogs of republicans and conservatives

saying they were smarter no studies though.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:28 AM
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Notice the following from the article:

"To determine IQ I use the score on the ten item Wordsum vocabulary test administered to approximately half of the GSS respondents."

A 10-question test is not a valid measure of IQ! How did they score on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale or the Stanford-Binet?
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Yeah, ten questions isn't enough to determine intelligence.
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i know i wasn't sure about it but there are two completely different tests there.

and it may not be but when you give the same 10 questions to 1000 people you can at least do some trending.
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He points out that the Democrats are now the party of the very smart and the very dumb, and that the Republicans are the middle. So the Democrats have smart people and people who don't question anything they're told on TV, and the Republicans have the average person... Okay. **** 'em both. I support my buddy Dave; he's going to take over Canada, then invade the US. I'm donating a fully loaded SKS stripper clip, five dollars, a Canadian quarter, and an IOU for a thermonuclear warhead to his campaign.
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I knew those shifty Canadians were going to try something one day.

i think my focus is on the second study it speaks a lot to what I have thought.
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Yes, Phae. I have an idea: I will begin a raffle. Put a dollar in my bucket, and write your name on it. Anyone whose name is on a dollar in my bucket will be spared from the Greater Purge, and quite possibly be given a position of power in the New Order! (Great way to raise funds for Dave, eh, Phae? Maybe I'll get to be the Secret Chief of the Secret Police. That would be awesome.

I don't think there's a side that's really smarter. I've run into smart and dumb people on both sides. One of those dumb people's in the white house right now.
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Notice the following from the article:

"To determine IQ I use the score on the ten item Wordsum vocabulary test administered to approximately half of the GSS respondents."

A 10-question test is not a valid measure of IQ! How did they score on the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale or the Stanford-Binet?
Both of the tests you mention, however, have a history of being susceptible to cultural bias. I've seen some of the questions myself, and asking "Which girl is prettier?", which I think came from the Wechsler test, doesn't qualify as a question of intelligence.

However, 10 is kind of short. More studies should be done on this topic; it's quite interesting.
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Well I believe that the Democrats are generally more intelligent, but that doesn't equate better. Democrats over-think many of the issues, creating policies where none are needed. People, despite popular opinion, are not horrible at regulating themselves. We have to create the policies for the ten percent or so who try to screw it up for the rest of the nation.

I think of it this way. The Democrats are the ones with the big ideas and humane values while the Republicans are the ones with the know-how and the theocratic values. Does that make one party better than the other? No. It makes them different and thus necessary to the function of government. Without the big ideas of the Democrats, the country wouldn't progress as rapidly as it does. The same can be said of the Republican know-how. It's only when you get the moderates of both parties that you find the truly intelligent and competent.
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I am thinking about editing out the top test no one has even referenced the adaptability test
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