They were national class that believed in something like it. Like a over powering government, believe me that is no conservatives. Also I know for a fact that the nazi party was left of center, because I read it. In hiter said it was at least early on. I wish I could find a link to show you.

nazis were socialists that believed in state control of people. just like the liberal darling hugo chavez.

Hitler was a socialist
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There is surely no doubt that the man Feser describes sounds very much like a mainstream Leftist by current standards. But who is the man concerned? It is a historically accurate description of Adolf Hitler. Hitler was not only a socialist in his own day but he would even be a mainstream socialist in MOST ways today. Feser does not mention Hitler's antisemitism above, of course, but that too seems once again to have become mainstream among the Western-world Left in the early years of the 21st century. See here for more on that.

One way in which Hitler was unlike modern American Leftist political leaders, however, is that he was to a considerable extent a genuine man of culture. The photo below shows him in white tie and tails attending the Wagner opera festival at Bayreuth in 1939. There is no doubt of his real devotion to opera -- and indeed to classical music generally. Any claim that a devotion to high culture is especially virtuous does therefore tend to be undermined by Hitler's example -- if that is not too ad hominem.

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http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html

Nazis were National Socialists. A better example of a fascist, though, would be Benito Mussolini, who advocated a "third way" other than capitalism and socialism.

On topic, Marx screwed up this country and this world.

The Nazis certainly believed in state control of people, no doubt of that. Authoritarianism is very common throughout the 20th century in a wide variety of nations.

However, the Nazis support for socialist principles was rather weak. If one takes an overall assessment of the Nazis governing principles (rather than just cherry-pick selective pieces of it) it is clearly 'fascist' with strong collusion between the state and private capital, and a militantly racist authoritarian streak.

If you want to assert that the Nazis were socialists, you'll have to offer some substantiation of that assertion.

Looks like the drivel of the American Communist Party.

Do you have a point? Your cut'n'paste party propaganda stuff demonstrates absolutely nothing.

you will not admit when someone is right. why did you not argue. and his point was to show that there are many similarities to what the comunists where suggesting to what the liberal democrats suggest and have implemented recently. you really don't have to think that hard to get it and just in the fact that all you did was call him names tells me that you did get it and that you did understand what he was trying to say but if you said he was right then you would have to admit that you think like a comunist.

Smart man Marx was.

Just some really odd ideas though.

Marx's writing have killed no one. People like Stalin have killed miilions and if you would read Marx you would see that there is not a shade of similarity between Marx and Stalin.

Marx is based on economics and many of his finding are correct, whether you agree with him or not. It was Hobbes and locke that get the nod of being the father of liberalism.

How did Marx screw up this world? All he basically did was make observations and suggestions on a change.