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Old 04-15-2008, 09:35 PM
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Phaedrus, do you believe our eventual space endeavors should be conducted by the government(s) or by the private sector?
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:12 PM
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In 1992, I decided to join a political party as I had barely any self esteem nor confidence which made it very hard to convince an employer to put me on their payroll. I decided that politics which I knew nothing of would bash me into shape.

I visited my local member who was Labor Party and asked about membership to the ALP to which I was instructed to leave the office or the police would be called and I would be charged for trespassing. When I rang up Labor's head office in Sydney, they just hung up on me.

Next, I went to the adjacent local member who was of the Liberal Party. Within the week, I had information sent out to my by the Liberal Party and the Young Liberals. All very good information. They also rang me up to see if I had any questions and to feel free to ask them anything I wanted to know.

So who did I join? Who do you think?

I joined the NSW Young Liberals and then half a year later, I extended my membership into the general division of the NSW Liberals where I put myself into the roles to fix my self esteem and lack of confidence. By the time I left the Liberal Party five years later, I had held several positions including one where I rebuilt a State Electorate Conference(Council) so that they had presence in what was and still is, strong Labor area. I left as I found myself disagreeing with a lot of what they are pushing for in Federal Government.

Then I moved up to Queensland where I remain non-political for almost two years till I joined the Queensland Nationals. I truly enjoyed the people but I detested their cowardice in standing up to management which they disagreed with by rounding up a good alternative to replace the ignorants running the show. So I started talking to people to get this idea going to overthrow the fools running the Queensland Nationals. While I found members who agreed in principle, none of them had the moral character to do this. Combined, we would have been the majority by they were too pathetic to do anything. I left.

Today, I am not financial with any political party. I see the Nationals in Queensland as still in a position to make a massive come back and dominate like they did in the years of the Great Sir Joh who stopped Queensland from disolving back into New South Wales after a very long Labor Government(1932 - mid 1960's). But to do this, they need to grow back some balls and stop being the pussy whipped male slaves to the cancerous Queensland Liberals.

I remain independent, Nationalist yet world minded, anti-multiculturalism, willing to see Islam pushed out of the West, etc.
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Old 04-24-2008, 09:19 AM
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What do you have against multi-culturalism and Islam in the west wombat?
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:42 AM
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Grew up liberal, but not frothingly so. Joined the Dems at 18.

Pretty much abandoned them about 1994. Registered independent, despite not being able to vote in primaries, now. If the Dems demonstrate some fire and spine, someday, I may rejoin the fold.
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Old 04-24-2008, 02:01 PM
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Grew up liberal, but not frothingly so. Joined the Dems at 18.

Pretty much abandoned them about 1994. Registered independent, despite not being able to vote in primaries, now. If the Dems demonstrate some fire and spine, someday, I may rejoin the fold.
I'm sorry.


Perhaps you should figure out just what your political philosophy is and find some other party (there are numerous national parties in the United States) to join. Third parties become viable when people vote for them.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:43 PM
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What do you have against multi-culturalism and Islam in the west wombat?
Islam: Because follows violence them wherever they go. Australia has a bad problem with Islamic gangs who go around raping young caucasian women for being white and Christian. In a five year period alone in Sydney, 55 cases of gang rape where the motivation was religious/racial. Each victim a young white woman and the perpetrators were either Lebenese or Pakistani. Each case it was Muslims telling them that they deserve it because they are white Australians. The government refuses to do anything and tie the hands of police so many times.

Multiculturalism is not a holistic approach to immigration. What we have now in areas such as Sydney, is suburbs where you must be Chinese or Korean or japanese, etc to live there. There is a shop at the Gold Coast where everything is in Japanese. The language, the pricing, everything only in Japanese. Where I to exclude the Japanese the way they exclude the white Australian, I would be convicted with a criminal record but no, not they.

They are allowed to have clubs, organisations, community halls and more just for their race but for the white Australian to do this is a criminal conviction.

I went out for lunch with two friends of mine who are Chinese people. When we sat in this shop front eatery, one of the Asian workers there instructed me to leave because whites weren't allowed. Because my friends knew me well enough to know that I was about to start something very noisy, they spoke to this fella in their language. You know, every single shop there only had Asian languages on the windows, signage, everything. Not a single word of English but for the street signage which I must say, continue to lobby for replacement by only asian language signage.

The Australian Labor Party at last year's federal election ran with racially based mottos such as; "Vote for Maxine McKew - It's good for Asians". Now, if I said, Vote for me because it's good for whites, I would be criminally convicted.

We should have assimilation and intergration. Not this BS formation of many nations in one.

Sydney is about to explode with racial fights on the streets where Asians v Arabs and maybe, v whites. The first time I went into Sydney itself when I returned for a two year stay, I had on a few occasions, an Asian man ask me when we white Australians are going to realise that we two must join up and push out the Lebenese and other Arabs.

Immigration must be about cohesion first, not what makes big business the most money which the idiotic leftwingers are pushing...helping out the greed of multinationals.
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I'm sorry.

Perhaps you should figure out just what your political philosophy is and find some other party (there are numerous national parties in the United States) to join. Third parties become viable when people vote for them.
Yeah, it kind of sucks. I've looked around, some, but most parties I've seen are rather extremist or one-issue centered. I'd love it if there were viable third parties, because it's tiresome having to explain that I'm liberal on some thing, but not on others, etc.

Hell, I voted for Perot twice, but mainly because he cracked me up.

But, I think the Dems are so busy trying to be Republican Lite, that it's hard to grasp what they stand for anymore. I think in general, their hearts tend to be in the right place, but they can't fight, have no fire, and do the goofiest things. I tend to be somewhat autocratic, and long for someone like a Winston Churchill to come in like a hurricane and show all these weasels some LEADERSHIP. Excuses for failure don't interest me, and we have massive, longstanding domestic problems that have gone too long unaddressed.

Ultimately, I probably ask way too much from my leaders, so none of the parties are up to snuff.
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:34 PM
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Non Affiliated, which here in Kansas is Independent, but can't vote for any Republican period because of Party Rules. The parties have to many rules and way to much power.

I would like to see one party for America. The American Party. Just honest folks that do 2 terms and out of office. No large amounts of money involved. And not a dime form lobbyist. The news stations just give each free time and a few national debates covering the entire issues w eface. So each person is selected by his or her neighbors based upon them being wise and dedicated to our country. Then each country has a run off and maybe 3 are picked to run off in a state wide race. While the other top 10 are for the next election no matter which office is up. From the 50+ we have town hall meetings and free air time. Then the primary where it is one winner for each office.
How does that sound. It is based upon the fact the only professional in Washington DC is the office workers for the politician.
Does that sound like a good idea to any others?
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But a single part system goes againts democracy. The road to hell is paved by good intentions
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Do you know how hard it is for me not to argue with you about the nature of a God I don't believe in?
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