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Mountainman · #21 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Guernicaa

Both my parents are Democrats, but my dad seems to be a little more conservative on social issues. I can recall some pretty racist/homophobic remarks he's made in the past. My mom's the same to some extent.

But I guess that paved the way for me to be really liberal.

Liberals/Democrats tend to be racist and homophobic, all the while claiming that conservatives are.

debateman · #22 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountainman

Liberals/Democrats tend to be racist and homophobic, all the while claiming that conservatives are.

What? That one was unfounded...

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check out #2. We need some reasoning behind the assertion that democrats are racist and or homophobic. As I recall it wasn't the democrats who sponsored DOMA, or the Federal Marriage Amendment.

Mountainman · #23 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by debateman

What? That one was unfounded...

Rules *PLEASE READ*. - Political Fever

check out #2. We need some reasoning behind the assertion that democrats are racist and or homophobic. As I recall it wasn't the democrats who sponsored DOMA, or the Federal Marriage Amendment.

Rule Nazi.

Ok, in general, liberals tend to bring up race as an issue. If they weren't racist, why do they keep bring up race?
In general, liberals tend to bring up sexual orientation, if they weren't homophobes, why do they bring it up?
Guernicaa brought up both issues while claiming to be a liberal.
Guernicaa said,

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Both my parents are Democrats I can recall some pretty racist/homophobic remarks he's made in the past. My mom's the same to some extent.

I was just agreeing.
Happy now?

debateman · #24 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountainman

Rule Nazi.

Ok, in general, liberals tend to bring up race as an issue. If they weren't racist, why do they keep bring up race?
In general, liberals tend to bring up sexual orientation, if they weren't homophobes, why do they bring it up?
Guernicaa brought up both issues while claiming to be a liberal.
Happy now?

Well I can't speak on the race issues as I'm not a racial minority, but I can speak on the issues of sexuality. Democrats are not the party of homophobes. If they were, it would stand to reason that they would be the party that was promoting a federal amendment limiting marriage to just a man and a woman. If the Democrats were the homophobic party, there wouldn't have been the overwhelming Democratic support to pass ENDA. The evidence seems to indicate that the opposite of what you say is true concerning the issue of homophobia.

Mountainman · #25 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by debateman

Well I can't speak on the race issues as I'm not a racial minority, but I can speak on the issues of sexuality. Democrats are not the party of homophobes. If they were, it would stand to reason that they would be the party that was promoting a federal amendment limiting marriage to just a man and a woman. If the Democrats were the homophobic party, there wouldn't have been the overwhelming Democratic support to pass ENDA. The evidence seems to indicate that the opposite of what you say is true concerning the issue of homophobia.

Actually, the term "homophobic" is a made up term that means nothing.
Homo = Same or the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans
Phobic = Fear
Disagreeing with same sex marriage is not fear of sameness or people.

P.S.
One doesn't need to be a racial minority to speak of race issues. That is like saying that one has to be a politician to speak of political issues.

debateman · #26 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountainman

Actually, the term "homophobic" is a made up term that means nothing.
Homo = Same or the genus of bipedal primates that includes modern humans
Phobic = Fear
Disagreeing with same sex marriage is not fear of sameness or people.

In the modern usage of the word, it indicates an irrational/overpowering fear or hate towards homosexuals. http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/homophobic.html
homophobic - Definitions from Dictionary.com

And that would describe the actions previously mentioned.

Mountainman · #27 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by debateman

In the modern usage of the word, it indicates an irrational/overpowering fear or hate towards homosexuals.

The liberal definition of a false word.
Good one.

debateman · #28 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountainman

The liberal definition of a false word.
Good one.

Since when did a dictionary become 'liberal'?

Mountainman · #29 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by debateman

In the modern usage of the word, it indicates an irrational/overpowering fear or hate towards homosexuals. http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/homophobic.html
homophobic - Definitions from Dictionary.com

And that would describe the actions previously mentioned.

Also the accusatory term for anybody that disagrees with gay marriage. Typically used as an insult and as a means to bolster a false argument in order to discredit the opponent in a debate.

Mountainman · #30 (**permalink**) 12-23-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by debateman

Since when did a dictionary become 'liberal'?

The dictionary isn't liberal, the definition of the word was determined by liberals when it was made up.

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