|
Welcome to Political Fever - The Political Debate Forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest with limited access. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You can also take part in our Private Debates where you can test your skills against an opponent. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us. After you Register the advertisements will disappear on the site! |
|
||||||
| Political Parties and Ideologies Discuss all political parties and Ideologies here. Everyone is welcome to share their political beliefs here. |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
||||
|
Yes, but you can't group them together because they did not agree on many things, so you can't say "their intent" as if they all agreed.
__________________
Set your destination with your heart, get there with your mind. "The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides |
|
||||
|
Quote:
By this logic we can state that when the legislature passes a law, as we cannot understand their intent because the vote was not unanimous, we can ignore the law. Oh...and they agreed enough to pass and ratify not only the constitution, but the bill of rights. But nevermind because we can't understand their 'intent' on our freedom of speach because their votes were not unanimous. Way to go there....you just negated all rights to all citizens in one fell swoop.
__________________
The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat |
|
||||
|
Quote:
If this is truly the position and aim of libertarianism, it's no wonder it consistently gets 1-2% of the vote. This debate/thread can go on and on, and I won't.
__________________
The poor object to being governed badly, while the rich object to being governed at all. -- G. K. Chesterton |
|
||||
|
Quote:
'Cause right now, the Fed is breaking the law. No one seems to care much, but they are.
__________________
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...." - The Declaration of Independence |
|
||||
|
Quote:
Our laws need to work for us, not against us. We can make our own laws say anything we need to: I don't share the opinion that the Constitution was decreed by God and completely immutable. Clarification, updating and revision is essential to a healthy body of law. I happen to think things like the CDC, the FDA, USDA, and other agencies are quite important, and very much government's (society's) responsibility. If we get to the point where we are letting technicalities of our own Constitution hamstring what the people want their government to do, I think this is a bad thing. Government needs to be able to be responsive to the desires of the people, otherwise it's rather pointless. But, I have always been perhaps more open to radical change than most people. If the 9th and 10 have been rendered pointless by established historical precident, then, perhaps it's time to revoke them, or clarify them. Now, don't you take what I've said to illogial extremes and say that I want to pitch the Constitution out entirely.......
__________________
The poor object to being governed badly, while the rich object to being governed at all. -- G. K. Chesterton |
|
||||
|
The problem with that is, our government has ceased to serve us. Our legislature is corrupt, our president is an idiot, the rest of the executive branch has an agenda, and the Supreme Court is ruled by a bunch of cronies. I wouldn't trust idiots like those to re-write the menu at Micky D's, let alone the ruling document of the United States of America.
__________________
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation... We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...." - The Declaration of Independence |
|
||||
|
Quote:
And, considering we've allowed our education system to fall apart, we don't seem to be producing a whole lot of brilliant statesmen these days, either. Politics has been reduced to bumper-sticker philosophy, and I can't think of very many people I would entrust a Constitutional re-write to.
__________________
The poor object to being governed badly, while the rich object to being governed at all. -- G. K. Chesterton |
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
May your paradise always be green, you liberties always be full, and may the ignorance of you enemies not drive you to be pro-nuke. "We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."-Winston Churchill |
![]() |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|