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Old 07-01-2008, 01:14 PM
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Been there man, sucks but your home is worth defending. Good show man.

A Glock 17 is a fine weapon, good home defense pistol, I would've preferred a shotgun personally, but different strokes I guess.

Thank you.. yeah, I have a shotgun but it wasn't close by and my Glock got the job done as well.
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I would have if I lived in Kentucky which by law I am allowed to shoot someone who has committed a felony in my presence and as resisted Civil Arrest.


Now... by law in Ohio, I could have shot them (non-lethal)... in the kneecap, legs, and arms. I was tempted to do it. But their pants were falling down and they could barely get away. So a warning shot worked just as well.

Now what that man in Texas did.. had every right to do what he did. 1) they were illegal (which is a crime).. 2) they were on his property uninvited.. 3) they were attempting a robberies.

If I was him, I dunno if I would kill them.. but I certainly would have kneecapped them. (but thats kinda hard to do with a shotgun).
Would you shoot someone who you knew was committing electronic theft?
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Would you shoot someone who you knew was committing electronic theft?
In what way? If it is done via the internet, then no, because I made the personal choice to connect to the internet.

If it is done through Banking, then no, as well. As you choose to use a bank or not too. Even then Banks are connected to the internet and they choose to be connected to it.
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:31 PM
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In what way? If it is done via the internet, then no, because I made the personal choice to connect to the internet.

If it is done through Banking, then no, as well. As you choose to use a bank or not too. Even then Banks are connected to the internet and they choose to be connected to it.
What kind of logic is that? You made the choice to walk down the street...
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What kind of logic is that? You made the choice to walk down the street...
It simple.. the difference between walking down the street and using the internet or banking is that.. when you walk down the street the risks are unknown (anything can happen).

Using the internet and banking you know the risks.
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It simple.. the difference between walking down the street and using the internet or banking is that.. when you walk down the street the risks are unknown (anything can happen).

Using the internet and banking you know the risks.
I know that someone can rob me on the street.

I know that someone can rob me on the internet.

I fail to see a difference.
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I know that someone can rob me on the street.

I know that someone can rob me on the internet.

I fail to see a difference.

1) Robbing you on the street is considered a violent act by law.

2) Robbing you on the internet is considered a non-violent act by law.

Castle Laws, CCW laws, and Self-Defense laws are based on is the act violent or not.
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1) Robbing you on the street is considered a violent act by law.

2) Robbing you on the internet is considered a non-violent act by law.

Castle Laws, CCW laws, and Self-Defense laws are based on is the act violent or not.
I'm not talking about laws. Laws are not a measure of morality.
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If I were being robbed, and I had a gun, and I had the opportunity to reach it, and the robber didn't have a gun to my head...I would at least threaten him with it, to get my wallet back. Even an empty gun can have the same calming effect. Probably hold him there until the police arrived. That makes sense to me, although I doubt I would have that kind of composure.

But, no, I don't think I would actually shoot someone. Especially after I got my wallet back. That IS bloodthirsty and vengeful.
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Would you shoot someone who you knew was committing electronic theft?
There is a big difference between being robbed (as your OP suggests) and electronic theft via computer. Asking if you would shoot someone for electronic theft has nothing to do with shooting someone if they are robbing you. Apples and oranges.

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I know that someone can rob me on the street.

I know that someone can rob me on the internet.

I fail to see a difference.
There is a BIG difference. You cannot be robbed on the internet. If you understood what the term "robbed" actually was, then it would help you understand that what you are proposing does not make sense. The act of robbery entails taking anothers property under the threat of violence or intimidation. Internet theft is a different beast.
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