There you go, TU. People who refuse to work and play well with others have that right, but can't reasonably expect others to accomodate their lil' fiefdoms.

All I ask is that with all this philosophical emphasis on rights and freedoms, that the attendant responsibilities and possible consequences be acknowledged, as well. As they say, freedom isn't free.

Maybe that's a better approach to all this.

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How about this compromise. All the people that are frightened of people that are not vaccinated can buy land and make there own lil community controlling each other. That's fair.

We'll scoop you up and dump you somewhere where you can be super-safe and be a nice herd of sheep.

Isn't this the minority, though? The majority of people vaccinated suffer no ill effects. It is only an unlucky few who suffer a reaction as the ones you describe.
I make sure to get every vaccination I need. I am allergic to the flu vaccination, but I have it every year, despite the fact I feel ill afterward. I would rather take the risk and be vaccinated, rather than refuse a vaccination, only to die of a disease easily prevented by a injection.

Vaccines do not suppress the immune system. This is a pernicious, evil lie. I already posted authoritative information on this from medical professionals who clearly say that's a myth propagated by the anti-vaccination crowd. It's one of their distortions to gain converts, just like the "lolz vaccines cause ADHD and Autism" nonsense.

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So you wouldn't kill one person to save a thousand?

We're not talking about monetary gain here, you're being disingenuous. If a few people die due to vaccines but everyone else is saved, of course the ends justify the means. That's like saying that spending a penny to get a nickel wouldn't be justified because you have to spend the penny.

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Corporation, noun: an ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility.
~Ambrose Bierce

When I feed the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.

~Dom Helder Camara

Businessmen have generally an interest to deceive and even to oppress the public.

~Adam Smith

Saving lives is also a bit more important than taking lives to get some people rich or to save some gas money.

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Individual liberty and personal responsibility are more important than forcing people to obtain certain medical procedures.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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Liberate the world one mind at a time.

Subsidize freedom with some profit.

I could not purposefully kill anyone without cause.

That is already the case.

I am there with ya. I see both sides of the argument. I am also a critic of the 'mandatory' HPPV vaccine. I will not force my daughter to get this one at age 11. She can make that decision when she is older. However, my kids do get vaccinated against the norms where their transmission would be likely in confined areas (schools). Now...if one suggests that 'girls' are likely to contract HPPV in the schools, then I would contend that we have a very serious problem with our 'education system.'

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The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish! - Frederick Bastiat

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Liberate the world one mind at a time.

Subsidize freedom with some profit.