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06-24-2008, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Technocratic_Utilitarian
 You cannot allow wanton opting out because it will lower the herd immunity too much and negate the benefits of the vaccines. I don't frankly care if it kills or hurts a few people in the process. The ends are justified. Quote: Originally Posted by leviathon435 I agree with Techno, there is very little, if any, credible scientific evidence suggesting vaccinations are bad for you. Any sane-thinking person will realise that vaccines are quite frankly the Earthly equivalent of a miracle eradicating diseases entirely when used properly. The problem is that there are a lot of idiotic people out there, I'm thinking especially parents, so relevant vaccines for children at least should be compulsory.  ?Translation: if you don't allow government to control every area of your life, if you don't recognize that all-powerful government loves you and has only your best interests at heart, if you don't recognize that government must never be questioned (because it is always right), if you even think that you might know more about what's best for you than government does, then you're not only insane but you're a threat to humanity and should be eliminated.
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06-24-2008, 12:57 PM
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Refer to my post. Lumara was propagating a myth anyway.
Edit: If you were a translator, I'd have you fired. You totally manhandled what I said and replaced it with your personal Libertarian agenda. I never said the government's all knowing or that people should be eliminated if they disagree. That's absurd. What I actually said was--saving the lives of most people and preventing sickness in most is worth the statistically rare incidents of problems in any one individual. It is. Public Health matters more. Most people are not capable of judging for themselves. They are not medical professionals, thus they lack the education and experience to make competent decisions. This is common sense. If everyone could diagnose and treat themselves, you wouldn't need doctors. Professionals specialize in their field for laymen who don't. Going by the above--the fact that Lumara doesn't like vaccines because she thinks they suppress her immune system-, my argument is self-proven because said believe is unsubstantiated and downright FALSE. IT IS A MYTH! Believing in myths indicates you don't actually know what you're talking about, thus any decision you make based on that myth is unfounded.
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06-24-2008, 12:58 PM
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06-24-2008, 01:00 PM
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06-24-2008, 01:00 PM
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06-24-2008, 01:01 PM
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06-24-2008, 01:02 PM
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06-24-2008, 01:03 PM
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 Brilliant! I'm being told by someone who believe an invisible being that is also all around us created the world in 6 days, making light before the sun incidentally. Oh, also a being which is all-powerful and all-good but for some reason can't stop the myriad of suffering that goes on or is petty enough to make people suffer to test their faith. Also an all-good being which cares whether men shove their d*cks up vaginas or a-holes. Yeah, like I'm going to take you seriously.But let's not make this a debate about whether or not God exists, however silly you want to be in your personal beliefs is none of my concern, but when it comes to medicine science is what matters, not mythical beings. Quote:
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06-24-2008, 01:04 PM
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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air. "Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder. "I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up." The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation. "Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."
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06-24-2008, 01:09 PM
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Staying active in some type of aerobic activity regularly is of primary importance. There are herbs that can be used on a regular basic, like garlic, that will cleanse the system. Then there is Echinacea when you first feel a cold coming on or during flu season. Golden Seal is also excellent. I remember when I was working with a clinic for physically impaired children, and our new head nurse wanted to give everyone flu shots. These kids were in wheelchairs and needed assistance for most daily activites. So the next day almost all of them had the upchucks and the poops at the same time. WHAT A MESS and we were short staffed that day!
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