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Old 05-19-2008, 10:23 AM
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In a newly-released tape of a 2006 neocon luncheon meeting featuring former War Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, attended by ex-military "message force multiplier" propaganda shills Lt. General Michael DeLong, David L. Grange, Donald W. Sheppard, James Marks, Rick Francona, Wayne Downing, Robert H. Scales and others, Rumsfeld declared that the American people lack "the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the ‘threats’" -- and need another 9/11.
When DeLong complained about a "lack of sympathetic ears" in Congress, and a lack of interest among the general American public, Rumsfeld responded, "What's to be done? The correction for that, I suppose, is another attack."

This videotape clip is part of a one-hour tape declassified by the Department of Defense in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. The entire clip, and analysis of this damning new revelation, can be found here: "The Correction for that . . . is another attack" (Jason Linkins, Huffington Post, 5/13/08)
For an independent op-ed about the same information, see Rumsfeld's Mind: If 9/11 worked, why not try it again? (Op-Ed News. It was also the topic of discussion on the May 14 broadcast of Nova M Radio’s Mike Malloy Program.
In the seven years since the day, exhaustive and still growing evidence proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the US government, spearheaded by the Bush administration, planned, orchestrated and executed the 9/11 false flag operation. As openly advocated by wide swaths of elites, from the People for the New American Century (PNAC), of which Rumsfeld has been a member, to the likes of Zbigniew Brzezinski (in his The Grand Chessboard), only an attack “on the order of Pearl Harbor” would, in Brzezinski’s words, cause the American people to support an “imperial mobilization,” and a world war.
Sept. 11, and its resulting “war on terrorism” (in Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, etc.), remains the Bush administration’s endless gift from hell, in large part courtesy of Rumsfeld.
Placing the new evidence against previously revealed 9/11-related acts on the part of Rumsfeld, his guilt is overt and obvious. Recall that it was Rumsfeld who enthusiastically penned the "Go Massive" memo, gleefully declaring the Bush administration finally had the green light to kill: “Not only UBL (Usama bin Laden). Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not.”
As the Bush administration’s war ensued in earnest, Rumsfeld gloated to the New York Times that 9/11 provided “the kind of opportunities that World War II offered, to refashion the world.”
It is not for nothing that Donald Rumsfeld was described by legendary war criminal Henry Kissinger as “the most ruthless man I’ve ever known.”
Did Rumsfeld let off a huge whoopsy here? Did he seriously say another 9/11 was needed to force congress to their side and to awaken American Public opinion to support their madness?
I know a lot of you don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, but perhaps Rumsfeld's enthusiastic suggestion of needing another 9/11 from his own mouth will at least make you think that perhaps you really have been lied to all this time?
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Did Rumsfeld let off a huge whoopsy here? Did he seriously say another 9/11 was needed to force congress to their side and to awaken American Public opinion to support their madness?
I know a lot of you don't believe 9/11 was an inside job, but perhaps Rumsfeld's enthusiastic suggestion of needing another 9/11 from his own mouth will at least make you think that perhaps you really have been lied to all this time?
It's not that i don't believe the US leadership and security forces are morally capable of being behind 9/11. I just believe they are too incompetent to pull it off. I think the latest comment only shows Rumsfeld as the politically naive, morally bankrupt fool that he is.
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He's a war criminal. He belong in the Hague, on trial.
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He's a war criminal. He belong in the Hague, on trial.
Wrong answer! I am so damn sick of you people suggesting that the United States of America should surrender its sovereignty to the Eurotrash!

He should be tried in the United States for treason.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:02 PM
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It's not that i don't believe the US leadership and security forces are morally capable of being behind 9/11. I just believe they are too incompetent to pull it off. I think the latest comment only shows Rumsfeld as the politically naive, morally bankrupt fool that he is.
I agree with Ron Paul on this one.

Crooks and Liars Ron Paul vs. Giuliani on the Root Causes of Terrorism

The Real Lessons of 9/11 - by Ron Paul

A European View: Republican Ron Paul on 9/11 & Giuliani's Bulldozing Answer...
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:10 PM
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Wrong answer! I am so damn sick of you people suggesting that the United States of America should surrender its sovereignty to the Eurotrash!

He should be tried in the United States for treason.
Ok, Ok. Someone, anyone. Just as long as you can guarantee your Judges aren't paid off by someone or appointed by Cheney and Bush to handle the "trial".
An independent tribunal would be better. I propose holding the trial in Reykjavick Iceland. At least if they escape they might freeze to death ;)
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Ok, Ok. Someone, anyone. Just as long as you can guarantee your Judges aren't paid off by someone or appointed by Cheney and Bush to handle the "trial".
An independent tribunal would be better. I propose holding the trial in Reykjavick Iceland. At least if they escape they might freeze to death ;)
I propose that we follow the Constitution on this one.
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"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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Eurotrash? Now there is a pleasant statement.
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