Should fathers have an increased ability to get custody of their kid, instead of the mother automatically getting it unless she's a crack whore or something?

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Yes, but only to an extent. I'm going to be careful not to be called a sexist but this is my view. A woman's role is more important for raising a kid than a man's. For two reasons, 1) The woman carries the baby for nine months, 2) The woman has breasts.

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I think that a man is perfectly able to take care of his children. Carrying the baby has nothing to do with the ability to be a good parent. A good parent is made not born and to be honest both parents have an equal chance of being great or horrible. And to say that because the woman has breasts, she is somehow better equipped to care for a child is a baseless statement. In an age where some women can't breast feed, or at least choose not to, that part of the equation is not vital to the child's development.

To say that women make a better parent is a continuation of the sexist stereotype.

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I think so...I think the child's benefit needs to be looked upon and joint custody issued when appropriate..and reasonable child support to the parent who ends up with greater custody....

I know many fathers who are great dads...and some who should just pay reasonable support....

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I never said that women make better parents than men, if you can quote me as saying that I'll be surprsised. I said that a woman's role is more important than a man's. Men should be present throughout life and there is no question that two parents are better than one, however when the parents don't want to live together there is a different issue. I believe the man should be taken seriously but that in close run things the woman should be given preference. Historically and as we have evolve as a species it is the woman who does most parenting. This should not be true today but the woman does have natural advantages at parenting and she has to carry the foetus, not the man.

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IMO there's a place for both parents. I've seen it fail horribly when women are too bitter to move into the adult and put the needs and rights of the children before their own anger. It works a lot better for everyone if the parents can just accept they don't want to live together and maintain regular civilized contact for the children.
I don't ascribe to the view that men should have increased ability to gain custody. Women need children, they are tuned into them and have more patience, more interest in their little stuff...the men need to be involved but for me it's the woman who is the day to day carer.
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I prefere the better parrent to get it, if they cant work out a joint custody

The child should go to the parent that is better suited. It has nothing to do about gender. You cannot even really use woman having breasts as a valid point. The welfare of the child is top priority.

What natural advantage does the woman have? Enlighten me. Just because there is a connection that the mother might feel for the child, this does not make her the better parent. To give preference to the mother is to say that she is important yet we can point to studies that show that the lack of a solid male influence has a significantly higher chance of leading to a lack of respect for authority. Just because our culture has adapted to forcing women into the home to care for the child does not mean that this is the best solution for the child. Today, we are seeing record numbers of stay-at-home dad's. If the woman's role is so vital, why don't we rage against this trend?

Parenting has nothing to do with genetics. It has everything to do with desire, dedication, and love.

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At a purely biological level, men and women can each serve as each other's equals in the parenting realm, no doubts there.


HOWEVER, we don't exist on a purely biological level do we? Culturally, women are generally raised to be more caring, more nuturing, and more understanding, while men are conditioned to be more stoic, more aggressive in situations, and more uncompromising. Given our culture, women should recieve a general preference in terms of primary custody for younger, developing children (this obviously does not apply to drug addicts, workaholics, or other similarly unfit mothers). In dealing with teenagers, joint custody should always be considered first and foremost, followed by an evaluation of which parent can concievably provide for the child in such a way as to prepare them to enter college and/or the real world.

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