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Old 07-09-2008, 12:47 PM
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Its not really stupid. If you're old enough to join the army, smoke and get married, you really ought to be old enough to have sex.
Yeah, I know, I'm arguing that if you need a law to lower the age limit, and preferrably no law for kids of the same age.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:19 PM
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Teens have always had sex - the main problem is that the marriage age has crept up so high. Throughout most of history kids old enough to reproduce were old enough to marry.
That is super true!! People we're getting married earlier back in the day, so sex wasn't a big thing cause you usually married your high school sweetheart and we're probably somewhat sexually active already.

Thats how Oregon and I did it! Old fashioned, married at 19 and 20!
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:20 PM
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Well, really old fashioned was getting married at 14 (for the girl) to some guy that was 35.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:27 PM
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Thats like renessance fashioned OE!
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I believe it was like that no more than 130 years ago.
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I believe it was like that no more than 130 years ago.

I beleive its also like that in Kentucky.
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That is super true!! People we're getting married earlier back in the day, so sex wasn't a big thing cause you usually married your high school sweetheart and we're probably somewhat sexually active already.

Thats how Oregon and I did it! Old fashioned, married at 19 and 20!
Back in history - when parents decided who you married, you might well be precontracted at birth, and sent off to marry a stranger the day you started menstruating. There were even peasant cultures that felt it was stupid to marry before you got the woman pregnant. Oh, and marriages were held on the stairs of the church - they were considered a civil matter. Of course, if either party rebelled - generally the girl - you could tie her up and gag her and force her to nod.

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Around the world countries look at teen pregnancy in a completely different light. In some cultures children are encouraged to experiment sexually when they are quite young in order to make the right choice in partners.
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I wouldn't dream of buying a car without taking a bunch of test drives. Maybe that makes me a pig, but, since I married for life, I am glad I found out earlier what wasn't going to work out.

Back to the actual topic, teen pregnancy is a major problem in many areas. I admire the nobility of the absinence-only viewpoint, but any stance that basically goes against human nature is bound to be...problemmatic.

In my understanding, few kids have sex to become pregnant. ( I assume some do.) Kids fool around, experiment, pressure each other, etc. To teach that sex will always result in pregnancy is straight-up lying to them, which I don't think I approve of.

A friend of my grandmother's was told by her mother never to sit on a boy's lap, that's how babies are made. Unsurprisingly, she did everything else, and was absolutely shocked when she got pregnant. So, I'm just not seeing how misinforming or not informing kids is all that helpful. If kids are to have any hope of making wise decisions (and that's what education is supposed to be about), shouldn't they have all the facts, good, bad and otherwise? Remember, the majority DON'T get preganant, so, obviously parenting and innate intelligence are big factors, too.

To those who assert that sex ed "promotes" sexual activity, let me ask if learning about the Third Reich in history class "promotes" Nazism?
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Around the world countries look at teen pregnancy in a completely different light. In some cultures children are encouraged to experiment sexually when they are quite young in order to make the right choice in partners.
Yeah, in Europe. In the middle east you might get shot for doing something like that.
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