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Old 02-16-2008, 03:42 PM
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There are scientific studies on Tetesterone. Boys have a lot more than girls normally. They have found Alpha female baboons that are agressive have increased levels of Tetesterone. They have also found that physical games or rough play increases the Tetesterone levels of boys/men.

It is interesting at the Celtic Festival I work at each year that they have various activities open to children and people without regaurd to gender. Most of the girls end up getting faces painted and dressed like Fairie Princesses. In the meantime, the boys are busy being the 300 stooges with little toy swords and shields poking each other or shooting rubber arrows at each other.
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:51 PM
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There are scientific studies on Tetesterone. Boys have a lot more than girls normally. They have found Alpha female baboons that are agressive have increased levels of Tetesterone. They have also found that physical games or rough play increases the Tetesterone levels of boys/men.

It is interesting at the Celtic Festival I work at each year that they have various activities open to children and people without regaurd to gender. Most of the girls end up getting faces painted and dressed like Fairie Princesses. In the meantime, the boys are busy being the 300 stooges with little toy swords and shields poking each other or shooting rubber arrows at each other.
True. Part of it is genetic predisposition. However, we amplify it by pigeonholing boys into certain roles and girls into other roles. In this way we get strong assertive boys and weak dependent females more often than not.
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Yeah ...I don't advocate taking care of a nitwit. If the guy is an incompetent retard, drop him like yesterday's trash. The reason girls more often pick the assholes is because they are the ones who look more capable at first glance -- And especially if he dresses like some James Dean character. However, what I'm getting at is that I don't like how our society raises girls to be more passive and to fit into roles deemed to be more weak. Children shouldn't be given toys based on gender. If a girl likes to play with soldiers so be it. Regardless, if I have a daughter, she will never get the princess treatment. She will be taught to be strong, self reliant and to not take crap from or need any asshole guy for protection.
But girls are softer...in some ways. So long as she is comfortable with having to be strong...individuals vary...
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But girls are softer...in some ways. So long as she is comfortable with having to be strong...individuals vary...
True. I wouldn't want her to be anything she wouldn't want to be. But, I wouldn't raise her to be more weak just because society thinks that is what should be done. I think there is an imbalance in our society based upon indoctrinated gender roles.

For me a good role model for a girl is this:



Not this:

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Old 02-16-2008, 04:17 PM
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=Skeletom182;41218]True. I wouldn't want her to be anything she wouldn't want to be. But, I wouldn't raise her to be more weak just because society thinks that is what should be done. I think there is an imbalance in our society based upon indoctrinated gender roles.
I thought your society in particular had evolved past the gender difference. I thought you to be much more modern in outlook, is that not the case? Here in the U.K. it has changed. Women are pretty independent and can expect to earn their own living. Most families have two working parents.

I'd have to say though as a general comment, that posting in forums has educated me somewhat in this respect. The U.S. posters' attitude to various subjects has surprised me.
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I thought your society in particular had evolved past the gender difference. I thought you to be much more modern in outlook, is that not the case? Here in the U.K. it has changed. Women are pretty independent and can expect to earn their own living. Most families have two working parents.

I'd have to say though as a general comment, that posting in forums has educated me somewhat in this respect. The U.S. posters' attitude to various subjects has surprised me.
It has changed in some ways. But for the most part I still see the same old gender roles more or less placed upon children from an early age. We don't tell our children they cant become this or that. However, society in the USA just makes it more easier for girls to fall into these roles. If girls arent playing with dolls, putting on tons of make up, or thinking about boys all the time, they face scorn and ridicule from other girls. The same thing happens for boys who aren't interested in war toys and/or football. Also realize that Britain has more of a tradition of female leaders: Margaret Thatcher, Queen Elizabeth, etc. Whereas the US has primarily a long line of old white dudes with humble pie wives. Hillary is one of the few exceptions of course.
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people stoped giving my dolls as precents when they saw that I cut and diet they hair, barbie with a mohawk looks pretty funny
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True. I wouldn't want her to be anything she wouldn't want to be. But, I wouldn't raise her to be more weak just because society thinks that is what should be done. I think there is an imbalance in our society based upon indoctrinated gender roles.

For me a good role model for a girl is this:



Not this:

So you would like her to be a lesbian when she grows up?

Instead of a nice normal woman?

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people stoped giving my dolls as precents when they saw that I cut and diet they hair, barbie with a mohawk looks pretty funny
You are so goth
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So you would like her to be a **** lesbian when she grows up?
No ....read what I'm saying. I don't want her to be weak.
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