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Old 10-13-2008, 02:34 PM
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Cobb County Police Get a New Toy
by RS Davis
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Hello Freedomphiles! Check out my new Nolan Chart exclusive about Cobb County's expensive new toy, and the terrifying militarization of America's police forces. Excerpt:

Just in case drug dealers start using IEDs and rocket-propelled grenades, the Cobb County PD has refurbished this $500,000 Light Armor Vehicle for their SWAT team. Originally used against another drug dealer, Manuel Noriega, this monster is another step in this nation's march toward the full militarization of our police forces.

In a speech to Congress, reason magazine's Radley Balko, the leading opponent of this troubling trend, noted that "since the late 1980s...thanks to acts passed by the U.S. Congress, millions of pieces of surplus military equipment have been given to local police departments across the country."

Police departments like Cobb's insist they need these weapons. As police chief George Hatfield said: "In these times, you don't know what you are facing, We want the maximum safety for our officers and the public. We want to be prepared for whatever comes up. This is another tool that will allow us to be quicker and faster in our response."

But does this militarization actually make the public safer? According to Peter Kraska, a criminologist at the University of Eastern Kentucky, there has been a 1500 percent increase in the use of SWAT teams in this country since the 1980's. Cobb County seems to be no different. Hatfield says that the CCPD has used its SWAT team 50 times this year, which means that like the rest of the country's SWAT teams, theirs is being used for things outside the scope of their original mandate.


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When would that ever be necessary?!
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If libertarians consistantly push that no weapon should be banned from people, why should any weapon be banned from police?
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The government should fear the people, not the other way around.
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The government should fear the people, not the other way around.
Criminals should fear the police, this has nothing to do with the people/government stance, it has everything to do with police/criminal stance.
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Criminals should fear the police, this has nothing to do with the people/government stance, it has everything to do with police/criminal stance.
Then you didn't read the article.
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Then you didn't read the article.
I didn't read the entire article, since it is a blog. I read everything that was posted on the forum, like the claim that because SWAT was used 50 times this year, they muct be abusing their power and using it for other things. Such a claim can not be made without looking at specific examples.
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I didn't read the entire article, since it is a blog. I read everything that was posted on the forum, like the claim that because SWAT was used 50 times this year, they muct be abusing their power and using it for other things. Such a claim can not be made without looking at specific examples.
The article gives specific examples. It's a regular piece, not a blog.
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OE, you're really, really annoying in your refusal to address topics reasonably.

No weapon can be denied to the people, we have a constitutional right to weapons.

Police Departments have no rights, as they are creations of the state. Thus, the state can limit their equipment, tactics, and wages. SWAT and the militarization of our nation's police forces are concerning because they make police lazy and increase their willingness to use force and coercion when negotiation and conflict resolution would often work better.
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This militarization of the police is the perfect example of why citizens need to have weapons. When government exceeds it boundaries and becomes the master it needs to be contained and that cannot be done by a disarmed populace.
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