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Old 06-25-2008, 01:23 PM
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Default U.S. Supreme Court Strikes Down Louisiana Law Allowing Execution for Child Rape

While I oppose the death penalty, I wonder where Justice Kennedy's brain was on this one.

FOXNews.com - U.S. Supreme Court Strikes Down Louisiana Law Allowing Execution for Child Rape - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

"In a 5-4 vote, the court said the Louisiana law allowing the death penalty to be imposed in such cases violates the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

'The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child,' Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in his majority opinion. His four liberal colleagues joined him, while the four more conservative justices dissented.

There has not been an execution in the United States for a crime that did not also involve the death of the victim in 44 years."


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"Victim advocates also warned the death penalty could do more harm than good if it led perpetrators to kill victims who may be the only witness to the crime."
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Any time this has been suggested and I've read about it I've tried to make the point that it endangers the victim. I wonder at the stunning stupidity of some legislators or perhaps it's not stupidity so much as pandering to populism. Either way it's a stupid thing to do, to sentence someone to death for any offence short of murder.
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Any time this has been suggested and I've read about it I've tried to make the point that it endangers the victim. I wonder at the stunning stupidity of some legislators or perhaps it's not stupidity so much as pandering to populism. Either way it's a stupid thing to do, to sentence someone to death for any offence short of murder.
Some crimes are just so heinous, so offensive to civilized society, that one could see how those crimes warrant the death penalty. It is generally accepted that raping a child falls into that category.
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Child rape is such a heinous crime that I have no problem with putting such lowlifes to death.

I wonder where Justice Kennedy's brain was when he said:
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The death penalty is not a proportional punishment for the rape of a child.
What the heck would be a proportional punishment for such an atrocity?
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Child rape is such a heinous crime that I have no problem with putting such lowlifes to death.

I wonder where Justice Kennedy's brain was when he said:

What the heck would be a proportional punishment for such an atrocity?
Sticking them in a cell with another lifer named Bubba and telling him to have fun .
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This is a good ruling based on my moral opposition to the death penalty, and the practical reasons that Diuretic outlined.
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Everyone hates Rape and the rape of a child is appalling. but the courts decision was right.
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Everyone hates Rape and the rape of a child is appalling. but the courts decision was right.
Leaving aside any objection to the death penalty in general, why is the court's decision right?
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Everyone hates Rape and the rape of a child is appalling. but the courts decision was right.
Exactly. The government should not be in the business of executing people, so I support anything that limits their ability to do so.
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Exactly. The government should not be in the business of executing people, so I support anything that limits their ability to do so.
But other than our mutual objection to the death penalty, why was the Court's decision right?
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