His memory and ideas will live forever.

granma.cu - International event in honor of Che’s 80th birthday

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

There are quite a few Argenteans who would doggedly dispute the "greatest son" label.




Even if they like Che.

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"Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-Joseph Welch

In true recent new: Che's children are embarrased by the popular use of their father's image simply as a label for beer , t-shirts, and coffee mugs.

The Associated Press: s children


An interesting man, nonetheless.

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"...Follow the crystal star to the pyre of the flame; there exists the dwelling of the spreading fire. The heart of this life rests upon the fate of that place, and what begins there sends a contagion to the rest of the universe.
As long as the fire burns we shall never be free..." (The Shadows of Yavara, Final Reclamation)

Amen to that!

And it's not 'Argentina' that's honoring him; it's one city. The government of Argentina isn't sponsoring this shindig, just one municipality's government.

As for the 'greatest son' label, I'd be willing to bet that if you took a poll of all Argentinians they'd be more likely to vote for either Jorge Luis Borges or Juan Peron, maybe even Diego Maradona, before they voted for Che as their 'greatest son'. And if it were 'greatest child', Eva would likely win hands down.

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"Yes. That's correct. Making a statement that's 100% true can't be bigoted."

I said "greatest son" not "favourite". If it were favourite, yes Maradonna would win, obviously. Favourite is a recognition of popularity, greatest is recognition of importannce, achievements and impact. So Che undoubtedly is the greatest, kicking a ball does not equate greatness, Che's words nad actions do.

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

I see your point but I still stand by my earlier post.

His importance globally is not the same as his importance within Argentina. That's not to say that many people there don't admire or even 'worship' him.
But the importance and impact of the other three men, and one woman, I named are, in my opinion, and I'd be willing to bet, a majority of Argentinians greater than that of Che.

For example, Jorge Luis Borges is arguably the greatest writer in all of Argentine history. He is the Argentine equivalent of Shakespeare for Britain or Tolstoy for Russia. EVERYONE there knows his work and many know his poems and short stories by heart. Not because they had to memorize them as school children, but because they love and respect him as a writer and icon of Argentina.

When he died virtually the entire nation mourned and the entire city of Buenos Aires was part of his funeral procession. The same thing happened for both Juan and Eva Peron (especially Eva). No such thing happened for Che.

As for Maradona, he helped the Argentine team win the world cup. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that. Che never helped Argentina win anything.

I think you're conflating his importance within Argentina with his importance to a global movement, therein lies your mistake.

He's an icon, yes. But Argentina's 'greatest son'? No.

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"Yes. That's correct. Making a statement that's 100% true can't be bigoted."

I see what you're saying. But my point is not even that Arentinians think he is the greatest, but that he simply is the greatest whether Argentinians think so or not. I think globally he is recognised as Argentina's greatest export and who had the greatest impact on the world. The title of the thread seems to have caused confusion, but basically i was just saying that Argentina was recognising Che Guevara, who on the whole is viewed as the greatest ever Argentinian.

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

[quote=Comrade Joe;120050]His memory and ideas will live forever.QUOTE]

Sorry to rain on the parade but so long live those that are alive and free.

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Yea can't keep the words of your great leader.

Prophet Muhammad - “Do you love your creator? Love your fellow-beings first.”

[quote=mlurp;120507]Yes, but as my comrade says "his memory and ideas will live forever" meaning after he's dead. How many other people can we say that about?

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Trust me, I'm a socialist!

There's power in a factory,power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand, there is power in a union.
The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg

As i have been telling you mlurp - it is never to late to learn to read.

See what levi said and you will realise how pointless your post is.

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?