The UK is sleepwalking into an Orwellian society. My main concern is that such legislation not only doesn't work, it is actually counter productive as 1980's Northern Ireland is testament to. Interning young muslims for lengthy periods without trial will only turn them over to terrorism. It will act as an Al Qaeda recruiting sergeant and radicalise those we should be reaching out to.

BBC NEWS | Politics | Brown wins crunch vote on 42 days

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

It's interesting how many parallels there are between the governments of the UK and US. Money talks, for one thing.

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"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty." Thomas Jefferson

Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

It sure does, although perhaps ironically the government also allegedly offered it's left wing back benchers an ease on Cuban sanctions for their support. Though this has not been confirmed as yet, the BBC were suggesting it in an earlier report though.

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

I'm obviously no fan of the Tories, but i quite like David Davis. He always seemed like a decent guy with a degree of priciples. Though i do not quite know what this will achieve other than keeping the issue in the news a little bit longer.

BBC NEWS | Politics | David Davis resigns from Commons

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

This is a purely cynical move, I'm entirely against the terror bill but what is winning back a safe tory seat going to prove? And I disagree with you about Davis, I find him to be a particualrly nasty version of the typical tory front-bencher.

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Trust me, I'm a socialist!

There's power in a factory,power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand, there is power in a union.
The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg

I agree that i don't know what it will achieve, besides keeping the story in the media for a bit.

On Davis i just respect him a bit more because he he has always seemed like a say what you mean and mean what you say kind of guy. Plus he is not a tory toff, he came from a very ordinary background and is a far cry from the privellaged majority of the party.

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

Internment?
British Government?

Now theres a suprise......................Not

Cant resist

Armoured cars and tanks and guns
Came to take away our sons
But very man will stand behind
The men behind the wire

Through the little streets of Belfast
In the dark of early morn
British soldiers came a'runnin'
wrecking little homes with scorn
heedless of the crying children
dragging fathers from their beds
Beating sons while helpless mothers
Watch the blood fall from their head.


Best anti-internment song ever.

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"We will disobey your laws as long as they are unjust and they make a world shaped only for your profit"-G8 protestor Genoa 2001





NO PASERÁN!!

"We learned a long time ago that we should never subject ourselves to the schedules of the powerful. We had to follow our own calendar and impose it on those above.” - Subcommandante Marcos

Exactly why you would think they would learn their lesson. It didn't work then and it wont work now.

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Viva Fidel

If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?