It is still a flawed analogy as guns were designed for the specific purpose of shooting things (especially people), whereas cars are not made for the purpose of killing people, but rather as a means of transportation.

The analogy is to show that there are a lot of other things that kill and maim a lot more than firearms. A firearm is a tool, this lady decided to be careless with the tool. Do we blame a circular saw when someone lets a child get a hold of it and hurts themselves? No, so how is this any different?

They still have a very valid purpose. They have a valid purpose just like vehicles and kill much less while serving their purpose.

Exactly. It is a mis-use of a tool that has valid and useful purpose. Just as a car or saw.

How many folks here on the forum have ever used a firearm? Honestly way to many people get their ideas about firearms from TV and movies. They are not some mystical killing machine. It is a tool. Some people choose to use it in inappropriate ways. Look at the guy in Japan that stabbed all of those people on the street. He used a kitchen knife in a way it was not intended.

I already know the response to that last line, "Well guns are easier to kill people with!" If it where a matter of caring about people being hurt or killed then we would not have bars with parking lots, you would have a breathalyzer in your rig, kitchen knives would be made out of a material that broke when you tried to stab something.

Have you noticed that "keeping people safe" only apply to firearms? Why is that? Why are people not out pissed off at auto manufactures? Their tools kill thousands of people a year. I will tell you why, because it is affects YOU. People seem to have no problem giving up RIGHTS when they do not use them.

When you have a member of the Klan speaking out against a particular race getting people fired up to the point where they fight or riot or worse, it is okay because it is protected. When any person expresses an opinion that gets someone hurt or killed we call for that person to be challenged, we do not yank the 1st amendment to "protect" everyone else.

Just because a bunch of douche bag gang bangers decide to shoot up a neighborhood, or some old lady acts like just a big of a douche bag does not mean that you have to yank my rights. How about we punish the people that perpetrated those acts? How about we nut up as a society and start taking action instead of blaming it on a hunk of steel / plastic.

Rights are Rights, we cannot allow people to sit there and cherry pick which rights are good and bad because those are the ones we use or don't use.

I have; I shot an M16, M60, and LAW when I was in the Army and I've done target shooting with a .22.

Well said!

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This thread is not about gun rights. It is about a stupid mother who's actions caused her granddaughter to almost die.

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I know and some people tried to say that the grandmother's poor choice of actions is somehow a reason to attack gun's in general.

You made a typo mother = grandmother. No big.

You are 100% correct but some thought this would be a good story to use against firearms.

So? No need to turn this into a thread about why you deserve to own a gun. I am interested in this story. I am not interested in reading rants about having the right to have a gun.

This woman was dumb. She should be brought up on charges. Not only did her stupidity cause her granddaughter to almost kill herself, she also endangered every person in that store. That is not just an accident.

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