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Old 06-08-2008, 01:52 PM
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Default Anti-Abortion Groups Shut Down Habitat for Humanity Project

The mindless stupidity and hypocrisy of some conservatives and their organizations never fails to turn my stomach. Planned Parenthood was going to SELL FOR ONLY TEN DOLLARS some land to Habitat for Humanity to build three homes for needy families but these meddling cretins put a stop to it. I sure wish someone would put a stop to such idiocy. It is one thing to belong to an activist group that shares your beliefs, but it is another to prevent aid from going to people who need it. What a crock.

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by Jill Filipovic

Once again, abortion opponents reveal their disregard for life after birth.

I know we’ve said it over and over: “Pro-lifers” don’t seem to care much for “life” once people actually enter the world. They oppose contraception access, which could prevent millions of abortions; their political allies take no steps to assist low-income women; they oppose universal health-care; and they generally stand against any social program that would actually help women and children. In fact, 100% of the worst legislators for children are “pro-life.”

So it shouldn’t come as a surprise when anti-choicers oppose programs that help born people secure shelter. And yet, even I was stunned at this:

An anti-abortion group has broken up a deal between Planned Parenthood and Habitat for Humanity by blasting out 10,000 e-mails to Habitat supporters.

Planned Parenthood is building a 23,000-square-foot regional headquarters on Central Avenue, and planned to sell Habitat the land next door for a token $10 to build three below-market-cost houses. The deal benefited Planned Parenthood because the city required the clinic to put up buildings as a buffer between its parking lot and Cohen Way.

“We could have put up any building we wanted,” said Barbara Zdravecky, president of Planned Parenthood. “We wanted to donate the land so Habitat could build more attainable housing.”

So Planned Parenthood sold a large piece of land to Habitat for Humanity for $10 — PP needed buildings to go up in the space, and they figured that they would use the requirement for good. But “pro-life” groups were so outraged that they shut down the project — a project that had nothing to do with abortion, and only meant that there would be more attainable multi-family housing in Sarasota. According to the American Life League, the problem is any “association” with Planned Parenthood. Even when Planned Parenthood is essentially giving them a gift. Even when the “association” has nothing to do with any of Planned Parenthood’s activities, and simply amounts to more housing for low-income families.
Anti-Abortion Groups Shut Down Habitat for Humanity Project | PEEK | AlterNet
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:16 PM
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So true Lumara and that goes for the enviro nuts and others to boot.
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Let's see, W. & his minions in Congress ran the whole show for many years, & yet, abortion is still as legal today as it ever was. You don't think they like keeping abortion legal just to guarantee that this one-note-band will keep voting for liars & thieves, do you? Make a small adjustment to the law, call it a victory in a long uphill battle, and ensure these nutjobs continue to vote for vice & crime.
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Okay while I totally dont support this action by any means, the actual event is a little vague on how this happened. I dont support abortion, but I certainly dont support anyone who would do something like this. The article doesnt actually say how they "shut down the project". Not to mention the report is biased and steryotypically labeling.

So Im just going to bolden some arguement fallacies on the part of this writer, just because I try to look out for these in any secondhand article that tries to tell news. Its not always reliable information.

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I know we’ve said it over and over: “Pro-lifers” don’t seem to care much for “life” once people actually enter the world. (Opinion without fact)
They oppose contraception access, which could prevent millions of abortions; their political allies take no steps to assist low-income women; they oppose universal health-care; and they generally stand against any social program that would actually help women and children. (Mass labeling) In fact, 100% of the worst legislators for children are “pro-life.” (Opinionated Bias? Whos making these % statistics?)
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An anti-abortion group has broken up a deal between Planned Parenthood and Habitat for Humanity by blasting out 10,000 e-mails to Habitat supporters.
Were these emails the reason for halting the project? What were these emails about, were they even related to this incident?

She doesnt address how or why the activists stopped the building project. Im curious as to why.
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Dig into it & let us know Black Ghost.

In the meantime, I'll sleep well knowing that the virulent anti-abortion crowd is filled with complete whack-jobs.
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Okay while I totally dont support this action by any means, the actual event is a little vague on how this happened. I dont support abortion, but I certainly dont support anyone who would do something like this. The article doesnt actually say how they "shut down the project".

Were these emails the reason for halting the project? What were these emails about, were they even related to this incident?

She doesnt address how or why the activists stopped the building project. Im curious as to why.
You bring up some good questions and I admit to wondering exactly how they shut down the project when I read the article. So I just did a net search to learn more. In a nutshell, anti-abortion groups slammed Habitat for Humanity with thousands of emails, and when some donors to Habitat threatened to pull their financial support because of the association with Planned Parenthood (an association consisting merely of being the recipient of donated land for housing) Habitat caved. I found several other articles, including this one: HeraldTribune.com - News - News stories about Sarasota, Manatee and Charlotte counties in Florida, from the newspapers of record. - HeraldTribune.com


This is despicable.
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Here is a full article.

HeraldTribune.com - News - News stories about Sarasota, Manatee and Charlotte counties in Florida, from the newspapers of record. - HeraldTribune.com

In short the entire thing was cancelled because of a bunch of emails.
The group supporting the closing of the deal apparently wished to stop the building legitamicy of the clinic by allying itself with Habitat for Humanity.

But further I beleive that as I said before, this action is contradictory to any cause.

Just needed to get out some better information.
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A different story turns out when an unbaised source is presented.

Planed Parenthood wanted to build a 23,000 sq ft regional headquaters and was selling the land because it had to (didn't have to sell it to Habitat, but had to sell it none the less). The opposition was against the 23,000 sq ft headquaters.
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A different story turns out when an unbaised source is presented.

Planed Parenthood wanted to build a 23,000 sq ft regional headquaters and was selling the land because it had to (didn't have to sell it to Habitat, but had to sell it none the less). The opposition was against the 23,000 sq ft headquaters.
And so they quashed houses for the poor? I'm sorry, I don't get it.

Why do anti-abortion nuts only care about embryos that aren't even people yet & will pi$$ all over actual living human beings? Do they not see the disconnect in their actions?
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And so they quashed houses for the poor? I'm sorry, I don't get it.

Why do anti-abortion nuts only care about embryos that aren't even people yet & will pi$$ all over actual living human beings? Do they not see the disconnect in their actions?
They don't not care about actual humans, PP just likes to use the poor as a shield to further it's own goals.

They want to build a headquaters somewhere and agree to sell the extra land so that low income houseing can be built and when they are stopped they cry that people don't care about the poor. They only care about the poor as shields. If they actually did care, then they would still sell the land for the low income houseing without building their headquaters, but are they doing that?

No, unless they get some benefit out of it, they don't care about the poor or anyone else.
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