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Old 06-09-2008, 01:41 AM
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Why shouldn't they also have a building? Who really cares why they're giving land to the poor. At least they're doing it. Have any anti-abortion whackos ever done anything constructive like giving land to the poor? Somehow, I doubt it.
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Why shouldn't they also have a building? Who really cares why they're giving land to the poor. At least they're doing it. Have any anti-abortion whackos ever done anything constructive like giving land to the poor? Somehow, I doubt it.
They should do it without conditions, otherwise it is just using. I can't speak for any anti-abortion whackos, but I can say that many anti-abortion people have done quite a lot for the poor, and homeless, and single mothers, and other less fortunate people, many churches. My Church in paticular, every month, goes to NE portland (where most of the homeless are) and give out food and warm clothes. We don't require that they join the church or anything, we don't advertise that we are a church, we don't read bible verses to them while they eat, we give them food and warm clothes and leave them allone.
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:30 AM
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Good for you. It must suck to be homeless in Portland in January.
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Yes, fortunately it doesn't get that cold (compared to other cities), and there is a good amount of shelter (to protect from the rain) under the many bridges that we have, but it still sucks for them. The City is currently trying to get more funds to open up more shelters and beds.
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If PP were building an abortion clinic, the reaction by the "pro-lifers" would be understandable. However, they made themselves look utterly foolish and hypocritical for opposing a transfer of the property from PP to Habitat for Humanity to build low-cost housing.

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PP was building a regional headquaters (of 23,000 sq feet).
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A different story turns out when an unbaised source is presented.

Planed Parenthood wanted to build a 23,000 sq ft regional headquaters and was selling the land because it had to (didn't have to sell it to Habitat, but had to sell it none the less). The opposition was against the 23,000 sq ft headquaters.
Can you link to that?
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Can you link to that?
It was in the post just above mine. I didn't see a need to reproved the link.
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You bring up some good questions and I admit to wondering exactly how they shut down the project when I read the article. So I just did a net search to learn more. In a nutshell, anti-abortion groups slammed Habitat for Humanity with thousands of emails, and when some donors to Habitat threatened to pull their financial support because of the association with Planned Parenthood (an association consisting merely of being the recipient of donated land for housing) Habitat caved. I found several other articles, including this one: HeraldTribune.com - News - News stories about Sarasota, Manatee and Charlotte counties in Florida, from the newspapers of record. - HeraldTribune.com


This is despicable.
It's guilt by association. Some anti-abortion radicals feel that to receive anything from a vile organization like Planned Parenthood (whose founder advocated sterilization of the poor, people of color and the "feebleminded") is to receive blood money since at least some of that money came from the murder of unborn children.

Is it really "despicable" or is it consistent with their values as anti-abortionists?
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They don't not care about actual humans, PP just likes to use the poor as a shield to further it's own goals.

They want to build a headquaters somewhere and agree to sell the extra land so that low income houseing can be built and when they are stopped they cry that people don't care about the poor. They only care about the poor as shields. If they actually did care, then they would still sell the land for the low income houseing without building their headquaters, but are they doing that?

No, unless they get some benefit out of it, they don't care about the poor or anyone else.
They needed to put up a building(s) in order to have a buffer between the building and the street. They could build a strip mall or any other sort of building. They chose to give the land away for poor housing. How is that being uncaring? Talk about spin.
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