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Old 07-21-2008, 10:59 AM
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Iranian Adulterers to be stoned to death

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By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer
Sun Jul 20, 12:51 PM ET


TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has sentenced eight women and one man convicted of adultery to death by stoning, activists said Sunday.

A lawyer and women's rights activist, Shadi Sadr, said the nine, who are between 27 and 50 years old, were convicted of adultery in separate cases in different Iranian cities. Trial protocol was not applied properly in the cases, she said.

Six of the nine were convicted based solely on judges' decisions with no witnesses or the presence of their lawyers during their confessions, said Sadr, who has been leading a campaign in Iran against stoning deaths.

"Their verdicts are approved, and they may be executed at any time," she told reporters. "We are trying to stop the implementation of their verdicts. And we want to amend the country's penal law, in which death by stoning is prescribed."

Under Iran's Islamic laws, adultery is the only capital offense punishable by stoning. A man is usually buried up to his waist, while a woman is buried up to her neck. Those carrying out the verdict then throw stones until the condemned dies.
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As much as I find this practice repulsive and barbaric, I am leery of criticizing the systems of other nations. Especially when we're not exactly beyond reproach, here.

It saddens me, but it is what it is. The practice is not new, and I can only assume these women (and men!) knew the risks.

Maybe that makes me coldhearted b*stard, but I have to stay consistent with my policy of non-interference. The whole world does not have to emulate America or our values. So, I'll have to say "just another way", unfortunate as it is.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:14 AM
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Iranian Adulterers to be stoned to death

Go to this link to read the entire article:
Activists: Iranians to be stoned to death - Yahoo! News

Activists: Iranians to be stoned to death
By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer
Sun Jul 20, 12:51 PM ET


TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has sentenced eight women and one man convicted of adultery to death by stoning, activists said Sunday.

A lawyer and women's rights activist, Shadi Sadr, said the nine, who are between 27 and 50 years old, were convicted of adultery in separate cases in different Iranian cities. Trial protocol was not applied properly in the cases, she said.

Six of the nine were convicted based solely on judges' decisions with no witnesses or the presence of their lawyers during their confessions, said Sadr, who has been leading a campaign in Iran against stoning deaths.

"Their verdicts are approved, and they may be executed at any time," she told reporters. "We are trying to stop the implementation of their verdicts. And we want to amend the country's penal law, in which death by stoning is prescribed."

Under Iran's Islamic laws, adultery is the only capital offense punishable by stoning. A man is usually buried up to his waist, while a woman is buried up to her neck. Those carrying out the verdict then throw stones until the condemned dies.
Well, at least they applied this to both men and women.

Iran is a sovereign nation: it can pass whatever laws it chooses.
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(Holy crap, I am agreeing with Chan! )
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Holy Crap? Now that would look awkward as something on the alter to worship!

They also hang homosexuals. That's how Ahmy can say they don't have homosexuals. They kill them off.

The stoning to death ritual is mandating in minute detail. There is a formally approved size and weight stone to use. Then traditionally, the would chop the right hand off thieves. The reason for this is that the custom is to use your left hand with water to wash your butt after defecating. Then people getting lashes is also ordered. For example, women who are dressing in western styles. Then if a woman is raped, she may be considered as a disgrace to her extended family and family members might murder her.
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Holy Crap? Now that would look awkward as something on the alter to worship!
In order not to offend the religious, I will refrain from comment.

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They also hang homosexuals. That's how Ahmy can say they don't have homosexuals. They kill them off.
That they do. Not to say there aren't a fair amount of people HERE who would happily advocate the same. (Oddly, they condemn each other as fanatical......)

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The stoning to death ritual is mandating in minute detail. There is a formally approved size and weight stone to use. Then traditionally, the would chop the right hand off thieves. The reason for this is that the custom is to use your left hand with water to wash your butt after defecating. Then people getting lashes is also ordered. For example, women who are dressing in western styles. Then if a woman is raped, she may be considered as a disgrace to her extended family and family members might murder her.
Eww. Nice.

Well, um.....at least they don't have the prison overcrowding we do...
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Any second someone will come and say that "the religion of peace is at it again."
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Iran is a sovereign nation: it can pass whatever laws it chooses.
That's why the Allies had problems convicting Nazis for war crimes.
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That's why the Allies had problems convicting Nazis for war crimes.
Well, war crimes is a bit different because we're talking about a nation's treatment of non-citizens (like prisoners of war). What the Nazis did to the Jews wouldn't really be war crimes because there was no Jewish nation for Germany to be at war with. This was a group of German citizens (except in those countries that Germany invaded, then the issue of war crimes comes into play). But even with the issue of war crimes, are nations really accountable to other nations?
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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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