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Old 07-22-2008, 03:06 PM
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And I look at the title of this thread about people getting stoned to death and immediately thing about Cheech and Chong. I think it would be much more humane to just give them a room full of marijuana and allow them to stone themselves to death.
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Old 07-22-2008, 03:35 PM
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Y'know, perhaps Ahmad and all those uptight imams could probably use a good dose of doobage smoke. It's not good for a whole people to be clenched so tight 24/7.....
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Old 07-22-2008, 09:56 PM
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That's why the Allies had problems convicting Nazis for war crimes.
We didn't have too many problems, though.

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Well, war crimes is a bit different because we're talking about a nation's treatment of non-citizens (like prisoners of war). What the Nazis did to the Jews wouldn't really be war crimes because there was no Jewish nation for Germany to be at war with. This was a group of German citizens (except in those countries that Germany invaded, then the issue of war crimes comes into play). But even with the issue of war crimes, are nations really accountable to other nations?
Well, the major charges against the Nazis (and not all three charges were brought against everyone) were war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes against peace, and genocide. "Crimes against peace" just means waging a war of aggression, for territorial or other aggrandizement. Crimes against humanity is stuff that treats people as sub-human. War crimes are things like torturing prisoners (ahem), murdering prisoners (the Germans murdered over 3 million Russian POWs alone), needless killing of civilians on any large scale (the Allies were also guilty of this), etc. Basically, anything done not justified by military necessity is a war crime. We all know what genocide is.

Now, personally, I think people should know better than to do any of those things. I think that the death penalty should be used for all of these crimes.

What the Germans did to their own citizens certainly qualifies as crimes against humanity and genocide. What they did to the citizens of occupied nations qualifies as all that plus war crimes, and the fact that they were occupying the other nations is crimes against peace.

However disgusting I think this stoning of adulterers is, I'm not saying we should invade Iran. (Technically, though, hanging gay people should be considered genocide).
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Well, the major charges against the Nazis (and not all three charges were brought against everyone) were war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes against peace, and genocide. "Crimes against peace" just means waging a war of aggression, for territorial or other aggrandizement. Crimes against humanity is stuff that treats people as sub-human. War crimes are things like torturing prisoners (ahem), murdering prisoners (the Germans murdered over 3 million Russian POWs alone), needless killing of civilians on any large scale (the Allies were also guilty of this), etc. Basically, anything done not justified by military necessity is a war crime. We all know what genocide is.

Now, personally, I think people should know better than to do any of those things. I think that the death penalty should be used for all of these crimes.

What the Germans did to their own citizens certainly qualifies as crimes against humanity and genocide. What they did to the citizens of occupied nations qualifies as all that plus war crimes, and the fact that they were occupying the other nations is crimes against peace.

However disgusting I think this stoning of adulterers is, I'm not saying we should invade Iran. (Technically, though, hanging gay people should be considered genocide).
Your listed crimes didn't exist in the lexicon prior to the Nazis- they had to be invented in order to make ex-post-facto convictions.

If Iran has a death penalty for adultery and carries it out then it is not genocide- regardless of if gays are killed or not.
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Actually the punishment only applies to the married ones. The unmarried adulterers get 200 lashes.
That still doesn't explain the 10:1 female:male ratio.
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The ratio is explained by the fact that the Koran places women in a role of sexual objects that men are given every excuse to exploit.
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IOW, the ratio does indeed reflect misogyny.
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IOW, the ratio does indeed reflect misogyny.
That is merely one example of Islam's exploitation of women- there are many.
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This is simplky more evidence that Islam is a cancer on the world.
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This is simplky more evidence that Islam is a cancer on the world.
I wouldn't say that. After all, it simplky isn't well-founded, if you catch my simplky worded drift.
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